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Eric's measurement of 11.36mm front lips means 0.447" front lips. That's contrary to factory and everything else we're doing. Maybe it's working for him, but I'd like to see some arguments to this. Yes... I've seen feed lips cut short on 9mm, 38 super etc to make the rounds get out of the mag quicker and "pop" into the chamber. I've also seen maglips opened to "release the rounds quicker" like this theory seems to support. Unless there's a backing argument to opening your feedlips like this I'll be opposed to it. I run my front lips about 0.395" and the rear is about the same (factory). This has and still does a good job for me in my mags. There is definitely some leeway in the width of the lips. What is really important and what I do appreciate what Charlie's done is figuring out a method that is absolute a GREAT way to make your reloaded rounds reliable. The idea of making the rear smaller than the front "concept" makes sense because it counteracts the opposite "problem". Typically the round is cone-shaped from reloaded brass not resized properly and they nose-dive. It's pretty extreme measures that Charlie went to, but he came up with a solution that does work. If you're having problems and want to follow this recipe, I will 100% support it and I don't think you can go wrong with it. Using new brass, well re-sized brass, casepro or for whatever reason your situation makes it work; you may not need to. When I shoot new brass loaded OAL 1.175" it works all the time. Mag bodies vary, spring tension vary, ammo vary. Obviously there are some uncovered differences that causes problems for some and not for others. I don't think the factory mags are perfect in any way. I've done quite a bit of work on creating a magazine that can contain 21 reloadable rounds with Beven Gram's help and creating my own pads. It has worked great for me. I do see that the mag bodies vary and I would like to see them wider. In fact, after the shot show and when I get back from my trip to Norway I will work on trying to "blow them out" to make the bodies about 0.020" wider. If we succeed in this, maybe the bodies can conform to a standard that will be better and more accepting of reloaded ammo. Again, if you're not having a lot of problems, don't sweat it. The ultimate goal is obviously to have a 21 or potentially a 22 round magazine that will work. The only way to gauge it is to use new brass, unsized. However, the preference is to have a mag that will accept reasonably reloadable rounds. I have friends around the world who have no problems, but all pay attention to details. The old computer saying still counts... garbage in = garbage out. Listen to all of it, take in and use what you need. Eventually we'll figure it all out and maybe we can get some detailed answers from the factory. I'll be seeing them in a week from today and I'll be asking a lot of questions.

well let me ask you why you're putting in a new barrel? I had Rich put a 1911 bushing in my 6" Hunter 10mm to tighten up the tolerances. It came out killer. Rich can put a sleeve on your barrel to mimic, otherwise I've got factory 40 limited barrels if you need them. Not on website. Not sure if I'd want to put a 1911 bushing style on a tanfo limited that's made for bull barrel. Bull barrel is preferred over bushing unless it's required. If you want to put a 6" barrel in your gun and keep it that way it'll look funny unless you do something else to it. The polygonal 4.75" barrel you have it in now will probably out shoot your 6" button rifling barrel you're putting into it.. Call me if you wanna talk (720) 352 1080. I'm curious what you're trying to do.

Sorry for being slow dude, Tanfoglio factory checkered grips aren't consistent, but the ones that I have from Limited's and Gold Team models measure about 0.230" - 260" from the inside to the outside. My checkered grips are labeled H-150 - 152 for a reason; they are 0.150" thick from the inside of the grip to the outside. However... to compare the Tanfoglio grip you have to consider that I've taken about 0.010" off the inside off the grip to make sure my grips to drag on magazines like the factory does. Factory aluminum grips as well as wood grips flex ( all do ) and will interfere will drop-free (as glock says it..). That's why I made mine relieved about 0.010" on the inside so that if you're strong and grip your gun hard you don't have to worry about the grips rubbing on the mags. So to compare "sort of", because it may not 100% reflex the actual thickness difference: Factory about 0.230" - 260" thickness Henning (in factory terms) 0.160" - 0.162" thickness If you're looking of a thinner grip than the wood, mine is in these terms about 0.070" - 0.100" thinner. I'm also considering making an even thinner grip in the next run. If so, these will be (in my measurements) 0.130" grips for women and guys with small hands. I've got glove size 10, can maybe squeeze into 9 and really like the size of my grips. I've got women ordering my grips who love them. I've also got women and guys who want them smaller so it's all personal preference and hand size. We keep working on it and we will make them smaller. I might even make a block that someone can hog out themselves to carve a big grip. The world is your oyster and it's yours..

I'm not sure what the rules are currently on steel, but there has been many examples of all-steel stages both in USPSA and IPSC in the past. You cannot make a steel stage virginia count I believe, but other than that I don't think anything's wrong with it. This match had IPSC sanctioning so somebody approved it and I know they had to make some changes from their original designs. But they managed to put in a lot of movement and make the short courses interesting.

We shot a pole stage at the 2005 North Texas Sectionals. We also shot one in the '95 Europeans if I remember right and there's been a few here and there on occasion. At the '93 World Shoot in Bisley there was one where you pretended to be a worker from the phone company and I sort of remember being secured to the pole. but pole dancing.. no ;-)

Everybody is selling everything these days so I think you're just seeing that there are a lot more of the Tanfoglio guns in the US now than it used to be. EAA can't get enough guns from Italy to supply the demand.

Hey Ando Appreciate it, I'll consider it. Not decided what matches to shoot this summer, but there will be a few overseas.

Lots of pictures and videos just uploaded tonight. Go to my website to check it out. If you don't see it, then refresh your browser on my home page.

posted an article 2008 New Zealand National IPSC Championships with pictures and videos. Great place, great people, awesome quality stages.

Yes, it will push it in when the hammer is down. If you want to use it for DA you'll need to chop off on the front and custom-fit it.

Before I decided to make my own pin I used the EGW and it turned out that in some slides the EGW pin got stuck in the firing pin hole. A major pain and result was that I had to turn down the pin to make it work correctly. Plus it wasn't as long as I wanted to so it didn't provide me with the firing pin "hole filler" I wanted. Weight: EGWFP = 81 grains HXLFP = 66 grains So.. with some quick math here, mine roughtly 20% lighter than EGW. It is also 33% lighter than the factory pin. Length: EGWFP = 2.600" HXLFP = 2.640" So... 0.040" longer which is substantial and it sits flush with the breech face in the slide. My pin you don't have to fit to make it work. It's an Single Action firing pin only, whereas the EGW can be used for Double Action. The extra length in my firing pin makes it easier to use a light hammer spring like the Wolff 13lb and you can set off rifle primers because the pin doesn't need to be pushed very far. The EGW has 0.040" longer to travel. I've sold 500 of my pins and about 20 of the EGW pins..

Qs: Are you using hollow point or round nose bullets? Are you resizing your brass all the way down and with a good die ? If you are shooting factory round nose and they don't work then you have a problem. Otherwise take a look at your cases. Used brass with a belly can cause the nosediving issues and hollow points are more difficult to feed with used brass than round nose. Your OAL is good. I would suggest using an EGW undersized 9mm die: http://henningshootsguns.com/shop/egw.html

Ando, Sounds good. The Austrlian Tanfoglio importer has shown interest in carrying my product over there as well which will make my aftermarket parts more readily available to you and Tanfoglio fans in Australia. No doubt there isa growth in interest in Tanfoglios world wide. They're very nicely made pistols that are esthetically pleasing.

I got some fixed rear sights for Match and Stock models that I've added online. Iron Sights for EAA / Tanfoglio Also have side-mounted, older style fiber optic factory sights. Spare fiber rods for factory sights (red, green and yellow 0.060" rods) along with factory set screws added to shop. Also got both "gold custom" and "extended" ambi safeties in stock. Extended are blued, Gold custom are chrome. My own rear sight project will move forward this week and I'm hoping to have a better rear sight in February for those tired of factory sights.

Hey Ando Technically that's all you need to do. The front sight can be cut with a carbide end mill first to cut through the glass-hard slide and then use a 15 degree dove-tail cutter to make the dove-tail cut for a front sight. Put the Henning iFiber on it and you'll have a nice setup. It's good to have the front sight first before you start cutting into it. I can give you the exact physical measurements of the iFiber if you want to put my sight in it. You'll want the slide cut undersized to give it a tight fit. Barrel is the other question; are you switching to 40 s&w or staying with 38 super? If you stay with 38 super it'll be easy. And the 38 super slide's breech face should be able to accept the 40 S&W case. Technically when you're switching calibers you want to make sure the breechface (where the case sits in the slide) is large enough / accepts the other case or it will have to be opened. This is a job for a gunsmith and not the easiest one to do. I think you'll be alright, but just want to make sure you're aware of that the slide will have to be able to accept the case and it's not always just a matter of switching out the barrel.

Al, You'll be a shoe in... ;-)

I forwarded your suggestion to Jason and I made him aware of this thread so he can join in. We'll get the matches started and then I think it'll naturally evolve as shooters start joining in on the fun. We'll let others borrow our tommies, but if there's interest in other classes and guns as you've mentioned we're open to it. I've thrown up a quick website to get something up and running. We'll fill in info, pictures, rulebook as we go along. American Zoot Shooters Website

I've always made fun of Leo for using one, but have to admit on my 38 super I sometimes walk around with two parallel cuts in my thumb from sharp feed lips.. To get 21 rounds in the 40 mags is tight from the 18th round and up, but by slamming, tapping the mag and using both hands well when loading it's not a big deal. Here's the article on how I load my mags: How to load Tanfo big stick mags I will probably still never use one. Stubborn.

If you're looking for a cheap way to switch calibers and not trying to set things up 100% correct, then just switching out the barrel will work for you. The differences between a 40 S&W and 9mm is that the slide of a 40 S&W has a larger "Breech face" (where the case sits into the slide). A 9mm will be held in by the chamber, but the rear of the 9mm cartridge will be loose in the 40 slide. The problem you might encounter is that extraction won't work perfectly. One way to counter this to install a 9mm extractor that is fitted to hold the case tight. I have an article in my "Tech" pages of henningshootsguns.com where it shows you how to "tune for 38 rimless". By taking material off the "knob" of the extractor, you allow it to come further in and so it holds it between the inside part of the breech face and the extractor hook when the empty case is being pulled out from the barrel chamber. If the case isn't held in tightly, odds are that you'll have some extraction problems where the cases are not ejected. The Tanfoglios are very forgiving so by adjusting the extractor you'll get away with putting a 9mm barrel in a 40 slide.

NOSAJ19: The pictures at the beginning of this article IS a small frame Stock II. Mo: I will be making a thinner grip in the next go-around. I'm almost out of grips for large frame Limited/Gold Team so this will be first we'll do. I figure the grips will be about 0.030" thinner on both sides. Then we'll checker on top of that. I will make the grips in both the current and the thinner version. Stock II small frame grips and large frame Stock/Match grips will eventually also be made thinner, but not right away. I've got lot of these in stock. But we'll see.. I might put something in my shop for custom orders of thin grips so that I get an idea of how many who wants them. Helps to know as they're expensive to make.

There are very small differences between the large and small frame. The outer dimensions of the grip section are as far as I can tell, the same. But the inside of the frame is cut differently; small has more material left in the rear of the frame while the large frame is cut out more aggressively to allow for a larger magazine to fit. The guns were all small frame up until about '95 when they introduced 38 super, 45 acp and 10mm. At least that's the year I got my first 38 super from Tanfoglio. There might be a slight difference in the upper section of the frame by the beavertail. The small frame gun has a shorter slide than the large frame. The parts that don't interchange between the large and small frame guns are: trigger bar firing pin slide magazines I don't think I forgot anything, but if I did, please correct me. Everything else should cross over except for much older version which had a long transverse hammer spring and hammer strut that went into the frame and also uses a plate/pin that's visible inside the maghole of the frame. That'll be pre '90 small frame models. FinGun; love your pictures. I'm considering stealing your picture of the dremeled hole in my article for the installation? If you don't mind? And Stock II... comes in both large and small frame. These pictures of Bianchi's gun is a large frame Stock II: Bianchi's large frame Stock II Here in the US the rumor is that we'll get the large frame Stock II. I'll investigate and get a clear answer during Shot Show in 2 weeks. Happy New Year

I shot 9x19 and 9x21 in major (180PF) from '92 - '95. It was a major stress on the gun and when Tanfoglio introduced the large frame 38 super in '95 it was a no brainer to switch. No doubt the small frame 9x19 shot in 180PF was a lot for frame/barrel. With international 160PF requirement 9x19 or 9x21 handloaded is nice setup.

The checkering is a secondary process done on smooth grips. They're the same width, but because they are 'checkered' material is removed and therefore ittibitty thinner. But maybe not in a way that makes a huge difference. Mo, do you want thinner grips than what you've got?

You can dress in any style you want and being original is of course part of the fun. If you are dressed in any manner that brings you mentally back to the 1920's you're in. We're in Colorado, Denver area. I live in Longmont and Jason in Denver. The shooting range is in Idaho Springs; about 40 minutes west of Denver. It's an old mining town set in the rockies so you'll get the vibe just being up there. Jason, Emma and myself will be walking the Shot Show in our zoots so look for us Thursday and Friday. We're putting on a match this summer in Idaho Springs and the website will be up and running shortly. Brian just emailed me with the info to host it. Means I've got some work to do..

Hey. Thanks for posting pictures. The Stock II looks killer. I and everyone in the US wish we could get them as well. I'm flying to Norway in January to pick up a small frame Stock II for myself. I've heard from Tanfoglio that they are starting to ship Stock II to the US and I'm going to the Shot Show in a few weeks to see what the status is.