Agent 214

What firehouse do you work out of?

Having been through this with two daughters I can tell you it's all about their comfort and the ability for you to teach them to safely control the gun. If you think it's gonna be a one gun and done thing, think again. My oldest, whos 19 now but was 7 when she first started shooting, learned trigger discipline, fundamentals and just flat out what to expect when a gun goes off on a P22. Not the gold standard for accuracy but again, it wasn't about shooting 1" groups at 20 yards at first. As she grew comfortable with shooting she became confident enough to try guns that weren't the best fit in her hand ala Ruger MKII and S&W 41. Because of her confidence with shooting she was able to focus on grip, trigger etc. Within a short time she was handling those like a champ. Today she enjoys 1911s but especially a 686 with some good solid 110 grainers. My youngest who's 12 right now lasted about 6 months on rimfires and loves her some VP9. I guess my point is, teach them fundamentals on something that fits them, not a budget or a preconceived idea of what you think should be happening. The worst part of teaching anyone is making them uncomfortable or scared of our sport by not listening to their needs.

Jerryz, by chance is your mist one of the ones that is ported in the barrel section? Gemtech originally ported all their barrels in the Mist like HK ported the barrels in the MP5SD. At some point Gemtech stopped doing this and then by consumer demanded started again. The ports keep "all" ammo subsonic.

I have found that using "suppressor" or "subsonic" marketed ammo does not justify the extra costs associated with it. I shoot using a Gemtech GM-22, AAC Element 2, and Dead Air Mask. While I will agree that CCI quiet is a SLIGHT bit quieter, it is not worth the money for a couple reasons. 1) It will not cycle semi autos 2) the velocity is to low to stabilize and give good groups out of longer barrels i have found that CCI standard velocity at $23 a brick is more than quiet enough and extremely accurate out to 35 yards. it will shoot 10 round groups of one hole out of my Ruger PR. For shooting critters I also tried CCI's segmented quiet and it also could not hold Minute Of Squirrel at 25 yards. Any standard velocity ammo and a good portion of "supersonic" ammo will stay subsonic in host weapons under 8". So by default, in a pistol, all ammo is subsonic. Most ratings achieved by Ammo makers is with a 16" barrel. Start hacking length and velocity goes down quick as well. As far as .22 suppressors go, nothing should hold you back from getting one now a days. Back when they were sealed and made of aluminum I could see them being an issue, but not anymore. My recommendation would be find one that is made of at minimum stainless steel and can be taken apart. Cleaning is simple with the right chemicals. Also, i go about 1-2k rounds between cleanings with no ill effects. Cans like to be be dirty to give best suppression.

Thanks for posting this! I was looking to purchase one of these units as I do a lot of suppressed shooting and always tweaking subsonic loads. So as I'm reading this, would the consensus be that I should continue to use my traditional Chrono and NOT get the LR at all? TIA

Purchased 2k .45 bullets during their Halloween sale. Bullets shipped and arrived within 10 days. Never had an issue with any orders from them. Hope they can survive the bankruptcy

On and off lurker here now looking to be a bit more active since my kids are now grown and I'll be able to hit the range more often for pleasure rather than work. State LEO and firearms trainer with more to learn on a site like this but will contribute when possible. Stay Safe.