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I think if you are carrying in a iwb holster you will get rubbed raw from skate tape or rough stipple. Coldbore customs does a carry stipple that might be more comfortable for what you describe. Or a rubber grip sleeve. G4 guns can rough you up pretty well also.
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I had surgery a few years ago and prior to that I inventoried the collection and handed it to the wife with sale value. Her eyes got large when she looked at the total, but after that she has become much more "supportive of the effort".
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How close to the 6th round can you get in? If it is not much you can trim off more. Some shells are shorter than others too.
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I think 922r addresses building guns from parts. Not buying an imported weapon and modifying it to your purpose.
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I bought the 1301 thinking all I had to do was add the mag tube. Aside from all the ribbing as to its ugliness I received from the skeet guys, when I shot a few rounds with it, it has been perfect. On day one I gathered up all the random 12 ga shells I had laying around and loaded up the gun. 3" mag, 2 3/4 steel, reloads, slugs and just tried to get the gun to burp. No luck, ejection was perfect regardless. It is a very nice gun. I stuck a Kick EEze recoil pad on it because the spacers a butt ugly and that was a real recoil buster too. The only problem with that is the screw heads work thru the screw holes on the pad (holes bigger than stock screw heads) and it is loose. Just a trip to the hardware store fix there.
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It already is a manufactured and imported item. Why would you have to worry to add parts?
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I have glasses that have a 1x lens to see the pistol sight, recently tried 3gun. I just adjusted the scope ocular ring, shot gun was more point and shoot. It worked out fine.
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I won an Escort youth 20 ga semi auto a few years back. It has mostly been waiting for the kids but I did shoot a round or two of skeet with it and it proved to be reliable and I think I shot 22/25 with it. It is small with stock extensions, cheap and ugly.
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1301 and 870, dynamic duo.
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Well I shot the match. I had rezeroed to shoot well at short range which I think was the right choice. I struggled a little on the long range stage but I was not the only one. I definately identified some areas for improvement. Thanks for the help!
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It would seem reasonable that a prefit pad for the 870/1100 is available. You can print some of these off and see.
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Works just like the Benelli, except the button to put one on the carrier is at the base of the carrier instead of on the right side of the receiver. Does anyone know if these will ghost load out of the box or does the bolt need to be modified?
Mine functions fine with a ghost load out of the box.
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We have a 200 yd rifle bay at the club, so I am shooting groups at 50/100 and contacting the 200 yard steel both 12 and 6 in plates with little difficulty. I even had a passerby shoot the gun at 200 and he hit both plates consistently.
Green tip shot very well for me today but no sense in loving that for 3 gun.
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I trimmed my spring back a little at a time and now can do 10+1 with the plus 5 extension. I also did some "sandpaper on the fingertip" polishing on the mag tube port and that slicked it up nicely. I can catch my thumb with a little effort, that may require something in the future. Fortunately it just caught my thumb, not trapped and crushed it.
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No details as of course layout. I am loading up some rounds as it looks like my old coyote round will do. I will post the results.
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I am not altering POA with any of the groups unless indicated, I never chase flyers.
So back to my original question. If I am not able to load some ammo for this match, would you use a 50/200 zero and cover those distances, and struggle at 300/400? Or have 300/400 dialed in and struggle with the close stuff? I am sure I will have to pump out some reloads after this testing anyway. Save the factory stuff for blasting.
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yeh I could only get 9+1 also until I trimmed the spring down....10+1 now no problem....
I left mine a little long for safety, I guess trim a little at a time...
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For those who have any interest anymore, I shot it today at 50 and 100. It seems that I will have to load my own to get this to be reliable for a match as the factory cannon fodder continues to shoot high and left even on 1x (perhaps slightly less).
Here is a 100 yard group shot at 1x to see if that would shrink the error. No such luck really, I did readjust the verticle down one click as I can adapt to holdover, but not horizontal.
I moved on to a 50 group with the 1x too and in this pic the 3 left shots are the factory stuff, and the 3 right shots are the coyote loads I had worked up for this gun. Some improvement.
Then I tried a few shots of another coyote load that I had tried in the past but the bullets turned out to be very hard on pelts. I think that I will have to load for this match after all. I will load a few of these and get back to 300/400 and see if it corrects my problem.
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I just got mine, installed a Nordic plus 5 and can only load 9 plus 1, am I missing something?
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If the scope is canted the adjustments would be not right to left but perhaps Low right to High left. The problem I see (I just checked for cant misalignment anyway) is that when I went one click left and two clicks up, it put the group right where it was supposed to. The 100 yard group reflected that adjustment by being up and left also.
I may try a different scope tomorrow and see if the bullets are displaying repeatability, if not, junk the DMS I guess.
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In thinking about cant again, if I used the post to help align the dots, the cant may effect left shift. I will check it. Thanks.
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The canting may be an issue in readjustment of poi but the DMS is a dot/donut reticle so the circles should not be affected by cant. Initial group was low right, minor correction to up and left moves to center of 10" circle. Move back to 100 and group is high and left similar to reticle adjustment. The 100 zero should be higher than the 50 zero a little anyway. I will go tomorrow and shoot it at 1x at 50 and see how far I am off.
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I guess my description is lacking clarity. I took the rifle and zeroed at 50/200yds. The 50yd group pictured above was rapid (well brisk) fire with front rest only. The gun shoots 1" or less off the bench with handloads, the mount is solid. I then went to the 300/400yds and did adjust the scope to hit my 10" targets. One click left, two clicks up. Then back to 100 to see what the adjustments did and the final pic shows poa/poi.
I will post a pic of my first group at 300 to show the guns potential, prior to adjustment. First three of the day, 50/200 zero, slow fire for grouping.
I found an old group of my coyote load with a different lower.
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I am getting my coyote gun set up for a 3-gun match out near a friends. I have shot USPSA but not 3-Gun as nothing is available locally. Rock River lightweight upper with freefloat tube, 1:9, 16", Levang comp, home brew lower, Millett DMS 1x4 scope (traded for it, bring what you got). I zeroed the rifle with some factory cannon fodder, American Eagle 55 grain. The first pic is minute of clay pigeon at 50, 12 inch gong at 200 easily.
Of course you need to test it at 300 and 400yds which I did this morning. After some minor adjustments I was able to put 3 in a 10" circle and 300 and 400. The 300 is dot covering dot, 400 required holding on a portion of the lower donut.
Not bad for a one eyed fat man.
Of course I needed to drop back to short range yardage and test the gun at 100yds. I find my poi is was off in the short course (run at 4x).
I still was able to ding the 200 yard gong 9 out of 10 times. All shots at minor speed of course.
So my question is should I be more accurate in the short course or the long shots. Before I get all of the answers of "find a load that works better, change your scope, etc" I am going in a few weeks and may not have time or ability to find a load that works better.
If I had to run this gun tomorrow, what strategy would you take. My feeling is the long shots are harder to replicate and I can hold low right on the short course with better success. I need to get out and try the short course on 1x to see if that will change the function, or find a repeatable hold that works better.
All suggestions appreciated, even those that I asked you not to give. ;-)
Beretta 1301 Comp
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The stock has a grommet that fills a qd swivel hole from the factory.