You need to get leather gear. Being from the Bay Area, I am familiar with leather, so I now have legal leather for all my IPDA guns and have retired my previously legal kydex because there is so much air to be seen. Hmmmm..... I detect a bit of bitterness and sarcasm, but it's not real as I love to spend money BTW Milt Sparks gear is great and they are only a couple of months back ordered. The Sparks Bruce Nelson is the way to go IMHO unleas hq outlaws leather and goes back to Kydex next year.