beltjones

I used to suck at swingers, but I bought one and put some work in and now I feel like I understand them better. First, the basics are really important. The better you can transition, shoot, and call shots, the better you will be at shooting swingers. You also can't be timid about shooting swingers. If you overaim, the swinger will swing past your sights as you work to improve your sight picture, and that will result in mikes. Of course you can't be too aggressive and doubletap them either. You need a plan. You hear from people all the time, "I'm going to hit the activator and then shoot that stuff and then come back to the swinger and hopefully it will have slowed down and then I can shoot it." That's not a plan, that's a prayer. Decide as part of your stage breakdown when you will shoot the swinger and stick to that plan. Over time you will get better at figuring out how to efficiently plan around the speed/appearances/angles of different swingers, but to learn those techniques you need to start eliminating variables now, and that means having a plan. That's it, in a nutshell.

This is the easiest "problem" USPSA faces. There is literally no need to overcomplicate it. Simply add classifiers after they have been shot at a Nationals event, and for each division use either the HHF from the match, or an aggregation of top HFs. Then, every period of time revisit the HHFs for each stage and use simple statistics to update the HHF if required. One method would be to use the median HF of the top 99th percentile of HFs for the stage. Provided USPSA maintains a database of HFs for each stage, updating the HHFs would take about 10 minutes every few years.

The mecgar AFC tubes work in the tanfo, but you need to swap to a basepad with a thinner lip.

I bet you will love them both equally.

Could you tell me how we could have measured the recoil? I didn't really notice a big difference between the triggers. Supposedly the Tanfos stack a little more than the Shadows, but I've felt stack-ey Shadows, and the way the Wizard set up the Stock 3 and Ben's Stock 2 (same dude), they don't feel like they stack very bad at all. I think it comes down to who "built" your gun, not which one you have. And since they were all quite similar DA/SA triggers around the 5.5/2.0 lb range, I thought it was best to describe them as "similar." The accuracy test - did you miss the part when I said they grouped the same? Because they did. Ben shot my Shadow and his Stock 2 and they grouped the same, I shot my Shadow and shit Stock 2 and they grouped the same, and I shot my Shadow and the Stock 3 and they grouped the same. I suppose we could have put them in a rest, but I'm not convinced that's a very meaningful test. I don't know if "accomplished" shooters did the review, but I can say that if that was the case, then the "subtle differences" just weren't that meaningful. Perhaps they would have been more meaningful to C class shooters, but I really doubt it. Look at it this way, if I had listed all of the subtle differences you may have come away with the opinion that one gun was the "winner" and one was a distant third place, when in fact that would have been the wrong conclusion, because they're all basically the same, like I said in the review. I would of measured recoil with a camera, at the point of firing, with multiple shooters. maybe you didn't have a decent SLR, which I could understand, but that's how I would of measured it. Multiple shooters, same ammo, with the three different guns. It might take a bit to get the picture you need, but that would be a more technical reading of recoil IMO. regarding the accuracy, i would of taken a similar approach. Multiple shooters, 3 guns, at 25 yards off of a rest, with the same ammo. I would of posted the pictures rather than just saying they grouped the same. I appreciate the review, but I think the testing methodology could of been better defined. I can accept that all three guns are pretty close to each other, but I'm not sure I'd accept that there are no differences between them. Maybe I just had a different expectation of what the review would outline. I could point out how the camera test is inherently flawed, how we did accuracy testing of a sort and I have no reason to believe the outcome would have been different. I could also point out that we never said there were no differences between them. I simply said that the differences don't amount to much. Again, if I had posted all of that data you probably would have arrived at a faulty conclusion. So instead of posting the above, I'll simply say this: Dude, it's "could have," not "could of."

Eric shoots the stock 3 in Europe from time to time. Maybe he only shoots the stock 2 in the USA because there are only like 10 in the country with no plans from eaa to import more?

Could you tell me how we could have measured the recoil? I didn't really notice a big difference between the triggers. Supposedly the Tanfos stack a little more than the Shadows, but I've felt stack-ey Shadows, and the way the Wizard set up the Stock 3 and Ben's Stock 2 (same dude), they don't feel like they stack very bad at all. I think it comes down to who "built" your gun, not which one you have. And since they were all quite similar DA/SA triggers around the 5.5/2.0 lb range, I thought it was best to describe them as "similar." The accuracy test - did you miss the part when I said they grouped the same? Because they did. Ben shot my Shadow and his Stock 2 and they grouped the same, I shot my Shadow and shit Stock 2 and they grouped the same, and I shot my Shadow and the Stock 3 and they grouped the same. I suppose we could have put them in a rest, but I'm not convinced that's a very meaningful test. I don't know if "accomplished" shooters did the review, but I can say that if that was the case, then the "subtle differences" just weren't that meaningful. Perhaps they would have been more meaningful to C class shooters, but I really doubt it. Look at it this way, if I had listed all of the subtle differences you may have come away with the opinion that one gun was the "winner" and one was a distant third place, when in fact that would have been the wrong conclusion, because they're all basically the same, like I said in the review.

I have heard that it is.

http://thefirearmreport.com/2013/10/its-here-stock-2-stock-3-cz-sp-01-shadow-showdown/ There you have it. It's settled.

A list is still very useful in that it prevents factory shooters from showing up with a new model (that may be advantageous, though in recent history probably has not been) and competing with it. This was probably an actual problem once upon a time before the mags were restricted to 10 rounds, and before basically everyone was shooting a tricked out Production gun. The list, as it is currently administered, is not useful at all. That is probably the reason most ROs don't use it at the chrono station. Making the list useful for the chrono guys to check competitors' equipment for compliance should probably be priority #1 when it comes to maintaining such a list. A table organized by make / model with approved submodels / calibers listed would be helpful. There could be fields for weight, barrel length, safety configurations, or other relevant data.

Has anyone looked at the set-up notes for 13-02? "Space targets 1/2 width toward center line each target." It's like some kind of Google translate error. Why not just use actual measurements?

Edited for clarity: If I could do it again, I would be conservative with treatment if I could do it again. I would skip the cortisone shot and immediately do the ice / heat regimen. The wristwidget device was something I stumbled upon months after the injury. The doctor had me in an immobilization brace for weeks, but I found the wrist widget on my own, which frankly I found to be more helpful.

I'm having a tough time visualizing the location of the pain based on your description. By "little bone" do you mean on the pinky side of your wrist? The sense of pain you describe, the "injury" pain, is it acute when you try to grip the gun with your left hand? If so, that's pretty much what I had. The MRI indicated that I tore the extensor retinaculum (pic below) in my left hand. As I understand it, it's a band of tissue that goes around the outside of the tendons on your wrist. I had a shot of cortisone, which really drove out the inflammation, but it left the tendons really shriveled and weak. The shot gave me relief for maybe a day or two, and then the pain came back. What really helped was a diligent regimen of alternating ice packs and a heating pad for 20 minutes at a time, more or less all day long for a few weeks, combined with lots of ibuprofen. The specialist recommended surgery to repair the tear, but I put it off and put it off, and at this point with the exception of some occasional soreness my wrist is fine. For a while I wore one of these, and it helped support the tendons as everything healed up. Good luck with the injury. I was out for about 3 months if I remember correctly. Hopefully your injury isn't as severe.

Hey man. Can you describe the pain in your left hand? I'm no orthopedist, but I did spend an hour or so in an MRI about a year and a half ago for a shooting related injury in my left wrist, so maybe I can help inform your conversation with the wrist specialist if your symptoms are the same as mine.

I was speaking of a third party arbitration. Where another competitor might arbitrate gear that they believe is not legal. That did not happen, but it could have. I saw this brought up on forums before the match was over. I suppose it is easier/safer to talk about it here than the do an arb. Or at least cheaper. No one would expect to win a 3rd party Arb vs. a celebrity competitor and their big money sponsor. The illegal gun didnt make much of a difference, why risk $100 over 100th place? I don't really get the bold text from Flexmoney. It's similar to what Vince Pinto always writes on the Global Village whenever someone implies something untoward happened at a world shoot.

Thanks! It should ship out tomorrow. I know that Brian doesn't get tracking numbers from Dillon for drop shipments and like many, I appreciate being able to track packages to keep an eye on their progress, know what day they are being delivered, and identify/rectify potential problems. Well, one nice thing about being signed up for FedEx Delivery Manager is that they notify you any time anyone ships a package to your address and you receive an email notification with the information. Tonight, I received two emails with the FedEx tracking numbers and could readily see they were both from Dillon Precision, their progress so far and when they are going to be delivered. Check it out if you haven't already: http://www.fedex.com/us/delivery/ Thanks for the tip! I wonder if it only shows new packages once you sign up, or if it can find packages already en route? In any case I'll know in a few days...

Because im not tied to one brand... i like them all Ok, so there is not performance advantage to the Baby Eagle? performance i think they are almost the same, its basically a stock 2 w/o the adj sights , the barrel is polygonal, frame is as heavy and i like that its a small frame.. a big plus is the price and that it uses a long hammer spring like the CZ so DA is much better than my Tanfos.. Cool. Good luck with it!

Then why is the specific language in the "special conditions" used for Limited division but not used for Production division? And what about the original question of this thread? What if the "approved" gun isn't on the list?

Because im not tied to one brand... i like them all Ok, so there is not performance advantage to the Baby Eagle?

Look at Appendix D2, for LIMITED division, under special conditions: "Handguns on the Approved Production Handgun List are authorized" That same text does not appear in D4. That's obviously an editing mistake, and that language should have been in Appendix D4. But it's not. It's an oversight, but RMs probably shouldn't second guess the rulebook when making calls. Hmmmm.

Source? Just kidding.

Don't you have like 9 Tanfos? Why the switch?

Awesome. Thanks for the intel!

I just ordered a new 650 from Brian, and I was wondering if anyone had a sense of current lead times for new machines. I know they were quite backed up a little while ago, but have thins gotten better? Has anyone ordered / received a press recently?

I think we are seeing very nice improvement from USPSA in all those areas. There's always room for improvement and what is optimal one year may not be the next. Volunteer organizations make it even harder. And USPSA is always looking for new blood, fresh ideas and strong backs. You're welcome to jump in. I think this is a comment more intended to silence criticism (constructive in this case) than solicit participation. This is a volunteer organization, and the volunteers did a tremendous job of putting on this nationals. Troy and his team accomplished a Herculean task with respect to this match. They have my respect and gratitude. This match was extremely smooth, despite the fact that there weren't even walls built a few days before the match! Yet Troy and his team pulled it off. That's impressive. However, while this is a volunteer sport, there are paid positions as well. We can and should expect performance from the people in those positions. I think that's what Ken was getting at. Saying "jump in and help" with respect to a paid position in the organization doesn't really make sense to me.