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JonInWA

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  1. My only concern for you would be for you to determine to your satisfaction that what you have was in fact a gun refurbished by Glock...If it is, I'd have absolutely no concerns over it. If you have questions, simply call Glock, ask for Tech Support, and they should be able to provide verification based on the serial number. Best, Jon
  2. When I use the "minus" connector (and I only use OEM Glock connectors), I use it in conjunction with a NY1 spring-that provides me with a consistant triggerpull, from inception to break, with a quick, very discernable reset point. The two Glocks in my collection that I have set up this way (A Gen 3 G34 and a Gen 3 G19) are used for both carry and competition. The combination of the "minus" connector and the NY1 spring provides a triggerpull that is slightly heavier than that of the "standard" connector and the coil trigger spring; while I personally like it for the characteristics I've described above, it should also nicely address any comparative concerns over legal liability discussed earlier in the thread. Best, Jon
  3. Rather than acquiring more hardware, at thie point I'd simply suggest that you beging training and competing with what you've got-that way your experiences will judiciously dictate what you do and/or don't need. Best, Jon
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    17 and 19 debate

    I have all three Glocks we're discussing-A G17, to G19s, and a G34. All are Gen 3 models. I've had excellent results with all three, in both IDPA and GSSF, the two sport shooting venues that I regularly participate in. Any and all of the three are actually quite easy to conceal. I've had the best results with my G34 (which has Warren Tactical sights, the OEM "minus" connector, and a NY1 trigger spring), but I've also had very, very good results with the others. Probably the most significant consideration for a potential buyer is how you individually index to the receiver-the G17/G34's receiver bottom haft is noticeably more bulbous/protrusive. Going with a Gen4 minimizes this, but it's still a factor in differentiating them from the G19. I've found my G19s to be very dynamic and fast to use, from draw, sight acquisition, and actual shooting. Any of the three are extremely easy to shoot strong-handed and/or weak-handed. Best, Jon
  5. I'd had one of those as well, before I really had acquired the knowledge and skill-set necessary to use effectively the DAO trigger. It was a 92D Centurion Police Special, with the slightly cruder slide appearance typical of the Police Special models of the period (BUSA allowed the cutting tools configuring the slides to remain in use longer than those for the commercial pistols, leaving increasing amounts of tool markings as the cutters aged), and had 3 dot contrast sights. I added a set of Farrar grips, and used a Galco Royal Guard IWB holster primarily for carry. It was a good gun, but I'm quite happy with my current 92D-and this time have dedicated the time needed to develop and apply the skill set needed....hmmm, there's probably a lesson in there somewhere... Best, Jon
  6. For several years I've run my 92D in both local and state IDPA matches. It's a great gun-the trigger pull characteristics are very similar to that of a tuned Smith & Wesson revolver. I got mine brand new in box in 2006, although it was actually manufactured in 1996, probably as part of a LEO order. The distributor had of course stripped out the 15 round magazines (during the assault weapons/magazine capacity ban period), substituting 2 10 rounders-so you had a large, emasculated duty gun in an action that most autopistol owners steered away from, making it essentially sale-proof. Since I've had it, I've switched out the recoil spring, slide stop/release spring, triggerbar spring, and trigger return spring for Wolff springs-the trigger return spring was replaced with Wolff's reduced power Trigger Conversion Unit (TCU), a very durable captured coil spring assembly. Magazines are Check-Mate's dry film magazines (Check-Mate is my sponsor), which have run impeccably. The OEM plastic grips were first replaced with a set of Craig Spegel-designed Uncle Mike's, then a set of Ergo Grips Extreme Grips, and then with a set of very thin and ergonomic Trausch TJ92 grips (which literally transform the handling characteristics of the gun, in a positive way). The OEM sights were Trijicons, which, despite their age, still offer an excellent night and day sight picture. I carry the gun in a Kramer IWB #2 holster for both real-world carry and IDPA. Due to the nightsights, DAO trigger, and simplicity of controls, the 92D frequently serves as my nightstand gun, easily operable by my wife if needed. Some images: And in the 2012 Washington State IDPA match: Best, Jon
  7. I've been exceptionally pleased with Wolff's Trigger Conversion Unit (TCU) that Wolff developed at the behest of the Border Patrol when their 96D Brigadiers were plagued with broken trigger return springs. I use their reduce power unit, and have run it for over 2 years, including in 2 state IDPA matches in my 92D. The TCU's captured coil spring appears to be significantly more durable then the OEM Beretta one (although Beretta has significantly redesigned and strengthened their spring). I also have switched out the recoil, slide stop, and triggebar springs with Wolff springs; it's actually the triggerbar spring that significantly controls the trigger feel up to the tripping of the hammer. Due to a lengthened leg, the Wolff slide stop/release spring is a bit easier to install then the OEM Beretta spring. Be aware, however, that you'll need to have the older steel trigger to utilize the TCU; fortunately BUSA is offering a component kit that supplies a steel trigger, trigger return spring, and "D" mainspring, at a pretty nice price-it's especially nice having the trigger paired with the D spring. Best, Jon
  8. I've found that on my Gen 3 large butt (i.e., non-SF) G21, a segment of mountain bike innertube provides an excellent, non-travelling/rotating grip enhancement, which is dirt cheap (if not freee outright from your local bike shop for a used one with a puncture)and doesn't grab on concealment garments. It's also extremely thin. Best, Jon
  9. I think he was talking about the finger grooves on the frame. Yep, I think you're right! In that case, there's pretty much nothing he can do regarding them, other than applying an innertube segment or commercial grip sleeve or decal/skateboard type applique to mute their effect. Best, Jon
  10. To get rid of the trigger grooves in your G19 and still be SSP legal, simply switch out your triggerbar assembly with the one for the G17/G22/G31 which has a smooth trigger. Best, Jon
  11. My G17 has Glock steel sights, a Glock extended slide stop/release and a mountain bike innertube segment for the grip. The conector is the OEM standard one, and the triggerspring is the OEM battleship gray one. My first G19 has OEM Trijicon sights, a #5 dot connector, a Glock gen 3.5 triggerbar, the OEM battleship gray triggerspring, and a Glock extended slide stop/release; My second G19 has Glock steel sights, the Glock extended slide stop/release, a Glock gen 3 triggerbar, a Glock minus connector, and a NY1 spring. My G34 has its OEM Glock minus connector, a NY1 spring, Warren Tactical sights, and a mountain bike innertube segment for the receiver grip. My G21 has the upgraded (now standard since the 2006 timeframe) triggerbar, Glock steel sights, a Glock #5 dot connector, a Glock extended slide stop/release, the OEM battleship gray triggerspring, and a segment of a mountain bike innertune for grip enhancement. All of my Glocks are used for carry, IDPA, GSSF and steel plate competition. Best, Jon
  12. You might want to try Trausch grips; they're about the thinnest available (and are quite good even without stippling). Best, Jon
  13. Thanks, JFlowers-that seems to be exactly what I was looking for. Interestingly, they offer an optional extended handle, making it the user's choice of it having a HKS/Safariland Comp II profile, or a Safariland Comp III profile. Great assist! Best, Jon
  14. On Safariland's site, the Comp III speedloader is not available for the Security Six. Will any of the other Comp IIIs for other revolvers work reliably with a Security Six, or, alternatively, what similar speedloader alternatives are there for the Security Six (and to head off the obvious, I already have Comp II and HKS speedloaders)? I recently shot my Security Six in our local IDPA match, and did reasonably well, but think my times could be improved significantly with a speedier, more positive speedloader (I primarily used HKS speedloaders throughout the match). Best, Jon
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