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* With OEM Glock mags. A couple of friends got them last year and with Glock mags they were great, not so much with the MagPuls or KCL. I have an Olympic Arms K9Gl from about 05 or so that's been just about perfect. The ones that I've seen from after that have had issues. One of the keys to a good PCC seem to be the mags and it's impossible to beat Glock mags for price of reliability.

I'll just throw this out there for your consideration. I tried to make an 1100 work for 3 Gun and dumped about 500$ of gunsmith rebuilds, on to of the initial purchase and upgrades, into it to keeping it running but just gave up. In the end and went with a M1S90 for the durability. Just about everyone else I know who has, or does, try to make the 1100 work has similar issues. They don't stand up to high round counts with the mix of ammo a lot of people use in 3 Gun like slugs, high base, turkey loads and Prairie Storm. This could be one of those "buy once, cry once" situations for you. The Stoger 3000 is a good low cost option that may save you money, time and frustration in the end. More money options like the Versamax, M2S90 or 1301 would be really hard to grow out of.

Maxpedition may be a rifle'shotgun option - http://www.maxpedition.com/store/pc/Discreet-Gun-Case-42-in-or-106-68-cm-long-p1453.htm

Any idea of round count? I have to start loading for myself and the kid I'm bringing along. Thanks.

Wouldn't that make it a 'mag changing' competition rather than a shooting competition? Why the desire by so many to limit mags? Considering the reliability I see out of mag fed shotguns and the hassle factor of mag changes on the ones that aren't extensively modified, I'd love to see it as I'd become more competitive with my M2's and a good quad load. After ROing Ironman, CT and MWMG the last few years I don't see the mag shotguns as much of a competitive advantage anymore because don't seem to be able to run for a match.

A couple of people have gone all the way with NV but you will not be competitive due to FOV and lack of practice time (unless your Tier 1 in real life with a few hundred hours on the range).

Your match entry is your's to do with as you please, as long as you are safe and within the rules. The gear you want to use would probably leave you less than competitive but if you would enjoy using it then all is good and have at it. Never though of the BAR as a long range gun though more like an 03 Springfield I would think. There has been one person who did the match with cowboy gear and had a good time. I will certainly give you a ton of style points if you can pull it off.

I would have to disagree on your definition of prepared. I see prepared as a continuum. At the low end is the guy who is shoveling reloads in his pockets and shooting a rifle with a bad zero and having a good time finishing last and at the high end are the people who know how many 7 1/2's it takes to knock over a full size popper at 30yrds and which choke he needs to use to make it happen. With the amount of equipment variation available even within divisions, the person who takes the time to research everything, experiment and be an early adopter on top of practicing will always have an edge. And this is on top of actual match experience and any other classes they may have taken. Unless you want to have a severely restricted equipment division it will always be that way.

Just finished laying out my match ammo and putting it away in the new smaller trooper stash can. Looks like I only need to carry a days worth of ammo to start. What am i doing wrong? Usually it's the first two days to start.

I'm right handed and left eye dominant. I shoot the pistol with the right and long guns off the left side. With coupled mags the reloads are the same speed, grab the mags and hit the button. On the shotgun the reloads are faster since I'm doing them with the strong hand. I feel that (since I've never put a lot of time into shooting off the right) that driving the long gun with the strong hand from the front is fast, efficient and easier then the weak hand. Trigger manipulation is a relatively simple manipulation and easy with the weak side with a little practice. I started with a BB gun at 10 shooting off the left. That's a lot of years and 20k reps before I even heard of 3 Gun and the differences in manipulation so it would have been harder to retrain for the strong side. Due to an astigmatism in my left eye I am stuck shooting with the right closed. After talking with several ophthalmologists it is what it is unless I do Lasik which is a possibility.

Bring both is always the correct answer.

The water at the range tastes like sulfur so bring your. A camelbak is nice to have as is a chair. Cleaning gear to take the dust out and keep you r guns cased as long as you can. Bring enough cloths that you can be comfortable fro 40-90 degrees. It will probably be in the 80's but the weather can change fast and get nasty. A quad is the best range cart if you can pull it off. +1 on getting to know your squad mates and be willing to work as a team. If you do the match goes well, if not the long days are a lot less fun. A couple of big garbage bags for your gear if the rain comes. Lots of snacks. Be able to take off all your gear when you are done shooting. You will be doing too much walking/resetting to carry it around all day. Camping at the range cuts about an hour of commuting out of your day which starts at 8 and ends between 6 and 9.

My 2 cents for what it's worth. The best thing that can happen to raise the level of consistency among the RO staff is a long meeting before the match to go over all the rules, line by line, with the MD giving his interpretation and expectations. Followed by an explanation of the scoring system and then a walk through of all the stages. This is where the MD can set the " tone" for the match staff's interaction with the shooters. On RO/shooter interactions. I find that the more informal the tone set by the RO, the less likely a lot of shooters are to listen to the RO and the more likely they are to try to push them. I like to be as formal as possible. Lots of "Yes sir" and " No sir". I will also clearly explaining my expectations about the on deck shooter being prepared to shoot and the squads responsibility for reset during the walk through. This seems to encourage shooters not to "push" me to test the limits with regard to slacking on the reset and arguing about penalties/misses (most of the time they know but want to see if they can BS their way out of it). At the same time it is important to give the shooters as much time as they need where it counts, getting setup. I never push them and make sure that they have decided they are GTG. At the MGM Ironman coaching is allowed and even encouraged, but the RO needs to ask the shooter what they want and the RO needs to realize that less is usually more.

The bunker stage might be a possibility if you can find 6 RO's dumb enough to run it. No luck on that last year, not that I'm complaining.

Since the match is broken into 2 halves with a reset day it's not hard to go from shooter to RO mode and if you RO first it helps get you acclimated to shooting long stages which is what throws most people the first time out. Just don't injure yourself before you shoot.