Seth

I'm with sarge. Easy doesn't separate the men from the mice. There need to be some spots where the shooter HAS TO mind their muzzle, slow down, be careful, et cetera. It teaches control and proficiency.

The term 180 describes the imaginary line across the shooting area whereas the term 90 only refers to one arm of it. But it's true, that the term can create some confusion with new shooters. In fact the entire concept can be confusing when you have a bay that's not clearly rectangular. But that's a different discussion. Then we can get into median backstop discussions. Oh what fun. In the end, the impetus is on the shooter to be aware of and not violate the 180. The course designer owes the shooter a safe course that is challenging. That challenge can exist anywhere between 90 degrees from the median backstop in either direction. Blocking the violation is, in my opinion, a disservice to the shooter and the sport. A shooter that goes too fast and breaks the rules isn't as skilled as a shooter that goes really fast and doesn't break the rules.

I like a 176. It always makes power. Can't tell the difference after the beep anyway.

I prefer blasted instead of brushed, but only from a durability perspective.

Find some old-school SV tubes. All mine hold 22.

I don't consider forcing shooters to push the 180 to be a valid way to "test" a shooters skills in USPSA. That isn't what USPSA is about. Yes. It's exactly what it's all about. Practical and diverse problem solving with a gun. Problems are not conscious of the impending 180. Sometimes a problem is at 179. Sometimes it's at 90.

Let me put it another way. If your margin for safety is so shallow that at 181° shooters are posing a safety hazard to spectators, RO'S and themselves, your margin is much too thin. Breaking the 180 should NEVER, EVER be an actual safety hazard. Remember, the 180° boundary is arbitrary. It could be 210°. It's just a number piece of paper. The match director and stages designers job is to make it safe for people to spectate and participate. Shooting at oblique angles is another skill. It's practical shooting.

No. A stage designer has no such responsibility. A target must be safe "on as and when visible". That means that it needs to be POSSIBLE to shoot it safely as a shooter proceeds. It doesn't mandate that they can't be available at an angle greater than 180.

I disagree entirely. It's up to the shooter to know where the boundaries are. It's perfectly legal to shoot at 179°. At 180 you're on the line. After that you're over. It's not rocket science. Why does the stage designer need to be nanny? 1° over 180 does not make a stage suddenly unsafe.

Depends entirely on the tube. STI tubes and SNLs are, in my experience, always legal. SV tubes and SNLs typically need the feed lips shaved to fit the gauge. Bolen guts are ok in STI tubes but you better make sure they don't get caught on the bottom of the ribs and turn the mag into a salt shaker. Grams guts don't tend to salt shaker, but they typically hold a round less.

I personally don't care for stage design that "saves" the shooter from making a mistake. Design stages to be safe first and challenging second. Offer options and multiple ways to solve the problem. Frankly, I see nothing wrong with a stage that has all the targets at 179*... But only IF it's set in the bay in a way that it captures 100% of the rounds fired in the berms and offers a challenge.

Brian is always the best.

Para is excellent about warranty. Don't worry.

I had the original version and it was by far the best holster ever. No drag, positive lock. I had the DAA, CR, etc... And the limcat is my gold stqndard.

That scares me. Mags should just work. For years and years I keep hearing about tuned mags and how mandatory they are. They are NOT. What's mandatory is a gunsmith that can build a gun that runs. I've had multiple customs built, all by Virgil Tripp, and they'll all run with absolutely any mag you can stick in them. I've been building 21 round limited mags out of SV tubes, SNL Pads and bolen guts for years. They always run. No exceptions.

Barrel is preference in my opinion if it's ok good quality.

I've never known gear to leave a match without its rightful owner. Call the range and MD. Shooters are the best people.

Egw for all hard parts. Dawson mag well, shuemann barrel. .110 rear bomad/ .060" serrated black front. Sounds like the customs I've had built.

Nobody said anything about not learning the right way. There's no substitute for experience and training... Meanwhile, what happens when an inexperienced ride grabs a handful of front brake on some leaves at slow speeds? Some lessons don't need to be learned the hard way.

Some technology is a good thing in my opinion. Find something with ABS and fuel injection. Makes the process of riding easier and safer. Much of the rest of it is preference. I miss riding......

Sometimes there's profit in turbulence! Hey look who woke up.. Where U been ? Long story. Not interesting.

This thread is begging for an Office Space quote.

I've owned 18oz. It was lovely. If you play by the rules, it's never a problem.

Sometimes there's profit in turbulence!

Anyone?