glefos

Well, doesn't it become a static target if it doesn't have to fall to score? Also, lets not forget that if it doesn't properly fall, then the shooter has to determine...while the clock is running...if they need to reengage it, because of a miss... or not reengage it, because it did not fall. So, a faulty plate adds time (along with distraction) to a shooters attempt at the course of fire. It becomes "not the same for everybody"...thus, it probably should be a reshoot due to Range Equipment Failure. I don't know that an inanimate object becomes anything, but anything sitting there not moving by definition would be static (popper, plate, paper, prop, etc) until acted upon by an outside force. Again, not sure that has anything to do with a nicked plate turning sideways and not falling. The plate turning sideways obviously is not static. I don't think the argument that a shooter "determining" while the clock is running would be a reason to keep the rule as is either. This is Practical shooting. The premise of the sport is the shooter making decisions while shooting thorugh a scenario. Aren't distractions and judgment calls, which add time to the score, the reason for many stage designs? If a plate is nicked and turns sideways without falling (obviously not set up per the rules) at a level I match, why not score it? I understand your reasoning, I just disagree with it.

I am aware of the current rule. Thus my why not change the rule comment. IF a hit on a plate can be identified by a RO, why not let a RO (not just the RO with the timer), make the call? I disagree with you. I don't see a slippery slope (how did static targets come into play here?). We leave paper targets open to interpretation as long as an RO can identify which hits belong to the shooter. As ROs we also have to watch hits for stacking on VC classifiers too. IF a hit on a plate can be identified by a RO (not just the one with the timer), why not let him/her make the call versus mandating reshoot based on REF? Granted, this will be a rare occasion, but aren't most rules that are nit picked in this forum.

If plates are either hit or no hit, why require a reshoot for a free standing plate that doesn't fall? If the RO sees the hit OR if the hit can be clearly identified (ie freshly painted plate), why not just score as a hit and keep moving? That might be a nice rule change that would speed up game play by not requiring a reshoot.

I was the one shooting when the popper didn't fall. I had this happened in a level I match in Columbia a few years ago and the Section coordinator, Jack Suber, did the calibration. He used my pistol to do the calibration. I was a new shooter at the time and asked why. The reasoning I received was that someone else's Production gun with factory ammo could PF 136 with factory ammo while my PF could have been 131 with factory ammo. Scott, I believe you made the correct call. It should have been a reshoot for range equipment failure.

Excellent point. Why would the word "should" be in a rule book? I thought the point of a rule book was to be black and white.

My brother's P95 mags and my P89 mags are completely interchangable.

Would it be wrong to have two Production divisions? Production - double action (current Prod div) Production - single action (similar to current SS) Seems like this would be good for the sport. Make for easy entry to the sport no matter what large auto someone has collecting dust in the nightstand.