TISCHLJ Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 The one real cut up slide from the Gans site does look like porn to me, as does the one with the comp.. .I neglected to look at those before if posted Gary will probably be the one to customize my slide for my next SS project, so this thread is quite helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpolans Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 The one real cut up slide from the Gans site does look like porn to me, as does the one with the comp.. .I neglected to look at those before if posted Gary will probably be the one to customize my slide for my next SS project, so this thread is quite helpful. That's interesting. The one with comp on it has much less metal removed than the one directly above it; the one with a comp on it looks pretty close to the stock slides on Sig's new 1911s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz1911 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 If I see someone at a match with a hacked up SS it won't change the way I shoot, nor will I worry about the competitive advantage they have. So, you'd be OK with "anything that fits in the box"? Which is a departure, I believe(?), from the original "intent". ? Yup. If it looks like a 1911 and fits in the box, I'm good with it. Have you ever worried about what someone else has done to their Glock, possibly giving them an advantage? I bet not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Easy. I'm not critiquing your position. Just pointing out that there are likely two camps here. One an "anything goes that fits in the box", and the other a "traditional 1911". Again, here is what the current rule says: •Slide – milling permitted only to duplicate a mass-produced factory slide available to the general public or as required to insert sights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz1911 Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Easy. I'm not critiquing your position.Just pointing out that there are likely two camps here. One an "anything goes that fits in the box", and the other a "traditional 1911". Again, here is what the current rule says: •Slide – milling permitted only to duplicate a mass-produced factory slide available to the general public or as required to insert sights. And with that I would expect the super shooters would show up with a very legal gun well within those guidelines. So that leaves the rest to cut away on their slides ignoring the above. I just don't have time to worry about "those" guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgunz11 Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 Easy. I'm not critiquing your position.Just pointing out that there are likely two camps here. One an "anything goes that fits in the box", and the other a "traditional 1911". Again, here is what the current rule says: •Slide – milling permitted only to duplicate a mass-produced factory slide available to the general public or as required to insert sights. Flex, do you know the profile of every mass produced 1911 slide? Are you going to start disallowing some guns in the SS Division in your matches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 I probably do. Yes. I'll use my common sense. Seriously... What can I do, but look at the rule? The reality is...I couldn't care less about what just about anybody shoots. I don't go around checking gear at the range. As shooter...I sure don't care. But, as an official...if somebody comes up to me and asks for a call, I've got to make one. So, I will read the rule book and check my print out of any "Official Rules Interpretations". What else can I do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezco Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 So, are the "carry cut" on gun #3 legal or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 So, are the "carry cut" on gun #3 legal or not? The BHP cut on the blaster with the super ugly grips? It's a tough one, but if it was up to me to make a call on that one, I'd let it play. Not much different than creative cocking serrations. Too bad there's no provision in the rulebook for a call on those grips... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbean Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Just for grins and giggles - how about these cuts? http://www.rogersprecision.com/id33.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgunz11 Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 I can't answer the rules question as to what is and is not legal. I also don't have to worry about having to make the call as I'm not and never will be a match official. I'm only concerned with the ruling from a gunsmiths point of view. I don't want to build something for somebody that isn't legal, yet I also want to give my customers some custom flare which is what they pay me for. You can get a working factory gun from any number of places. I'd hope someone would come to me for some creative look in a gun that would let theirs stand apart from everything else on the range. As we all know, the prettier guns shoot faster and straighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TISCHLJ Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Just for grins and giggles - how about these cuts? http://www.rogersprecision.com/id33.html Looks like a custom 1911 with forward and rear cocking serrations and "decorative" slide machining. Nothing I would complain about if I was shooting agains this pistol and shooter. Not my style, but hey, it's personalized to the shooter, and does not appear, to me, as outside the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgunz11 Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 I disagree. In the above link, the cuts on the slide DO in fact reduce weight, and to some that might be considered a "competitive advantage". If lightening a slide wasn't, we wouldn't be doing it so much. It lightens the over all reciprocating weight of the mass moving back and forth on the frame and also allows you to run a lighter spring. Now I should also add, I don't care what the other guy is shooting as long as it is a 1911 and he only has 8 rounds in the mags to score major pf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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