kamikaze1a Posted September 25, 2009 Share Posted September 25, 2009 I finally got around to trying some different powders lastnight. My supply of preferred Bullseye dwindling so trying some alternates. Found that 700X does not meaure well for small bushings/disks like you would use for loading 9mm minor. I got 2+ grs if I shook the dispenser followed by >1gr on following throws. I think the big, flat flakes clogging up the hopper. I used to use that same powder for 12ga and it threw well in the bigger bushings of my shotshell loader. The HP38 dispensed just fine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjtpa Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I finally got around to trying some different powders lastnight. My supply of preferred Bullseye dwindling so trying some alternates. Found that 700X does not meaure well for small bushings/disks like you would use for loading 9mm minor. I got 2+ grs if I shook the dispenser followed by >1gr on following throws. I think the big, flat flakes clogging up the hopper. I used to use that same powder for 12ga and it threw well in the bigger bushings of my shotshell loader. The HP38 dispensed just fine... What kind of powder measure and what was the charge weight you were targeting? I am planning on using some 700x and this is not good news... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 It stinks to high heaven too if I remember right. My trap buddies used to say it smelled like I crapped a cigar. Maybe it has changed in the last 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz1911 Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I had some left over from my trap shooting days so I decided to use it in some 9 minor ammo. It seemed to meter ok through my Dillon and chrono tests showed pretty consistent results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revchuck Posted September 26, 2009 Share Posted September 26, 2009 I got 2+ grs if I shook the dispenser followed by >1gr on following throws. Things that work for me when using bulky powders: After you fill the hopper, drum your fingers against the side. You'll see the powder start to settle. Throw about ten charges without weighing and dump them back in, and then start weighing. Bulky powders just take a while to settle. A newer powder that works well for loads that traditionally used Bullseye and 700X is Winchester Super Target (WST). WST's burn rate is in the same ballpark, it's about the same price, and it meters really well...and it was originally marketed as a shotgun powder, so there's lots of shotgun data for it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikaze1a Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 I got 2+ grs if I shook the dispenser followed by >1gr on following throws. Things that work for me when using bulky powders: After you fill the hopper, drum your fingers against the side. You'll see the powder start to settle. Throw about ten charges without weighing and dump them back in, and then start weighing. Bulky powders just take a while to settle. A newer powder that works well for loads that traditionally used Bullseye and 700X is Winchester Super Target (WST). WST's burn rate is in the same ballpark, it's about the same price, and it meters really well...and it was originally marketed as a shotgun powder, so there's lots of shotgun data for it too. Unfortunately, I did try throwing over a dozen charges and unless I tapped the dispenser, it would throw way light. I'm going to check the results with a bigger charge like I would use for 40 or 45...hopefully I'll get more consistant metering with a larger volume bushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyT Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I have not used HS-700X in 9mm but my pert load in 45 ACP is a 185 gr. LSWC, 3.8 gr. HS-700X, Rem 2.5 for ca 710 fps - mild and very accurate out to 25 yards. That charge meters well in my dillon 550. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bball97 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I got 2+ grs if I shook the dispenser followed by >1gr on following throws. Things that work for me when using bulky powders: After you fill the hopper, drum your fingers against the side. You'll see the powder start to settle. Throw about ten charges without weighing and dump them back in, and then start weighing. Bulky powders just take a while to settle. A newer powder that works well for loads that traditionally used Bullseye and 700X is Winchester Super Target (WST). WST's burn rate is in the same ballpark, it's about the same price, and it meters really well...and it was originally marketed as a shotgun powder, so there's lots of shotgun data for it too. +1 for WST it meters as well as 231! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountaincoulee Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 (edited) 700-X dispenses fairly reliably in my Lee Perfect Powder Measure, so long as I tap the side of the rotor housing the same number of times for each throw, and manipulate the lever the same way. I also have to keep the powder level between 2/3 full to 1/3 full, or the charge varies. I scale test every tenth load. Any change to this dispensing routine will vary the charge, so I have to stay alert. Benefit to me is that this powder burns clean in my HG, and is readily available hereabouts. For a 123gr FMJ bullet (not fully encapsulated), 3.9gr IMR 700-X pushes it to +/- 1,058fps, for a 130 PF. This load fills the case pretty good, so that it will overflow in case of a dbl charge. edit: I'll try WST when I find it. Edited October 16, 2009 by mountaincoulee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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