2MoreChains Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Hi everyone. I started shooting USPSA in Sept w/ a Kimber TLE II, and recently decided to get a STI Trojan to serve as my primary SS gun. The STI should be here sometime next week. I ordered it through a local gunsmith who is also a competitor, and has a good rep as a 1911 mechanic around here (which is to say I trust his judgement). I ordered it with the Dawson FO front sight and a S&A magwell, and kept the rest stock (i.e. KISS). I read a lot about trigger jobs and reliability tuning packages that companies like Brazos offers, but wanted to have the work done locally by somebody I knew (not that I doubt the work done by Brazos...) so I opted to have the pistol delivered as is, without any work done on it. My guy recommended that I break it in first with about 500 rounds before he started working on the trigger and smoothing out the internals. I've read a few threads about people having the trigger work or tuning done before they even take delivery of the pistol, and was wondering what the opinions are on this: Break it in first then have work done on it, or vice versa? It seems to make sense to me to break it in first and let everything wear in... but I'm open to hear what folks have to say. Thanks for the advice. BTW, I'm just a middlin' C shooter, and probably a low 'D' when it comes to tinkering on pistols (I know enough to be dangerous...) Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UW Mitch Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 I'd just shoot it for a while then have your guy tune it to your liking once you've shot a few matches with it. You may discover you're perfectly happy with it "as is". ~Mitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevoro Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 I would shoot it first. trojans get kind of gross after they are broken in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MoreChains Posted June 6, 2009 Author Share Posted June 6, 2009 trojans get kind of gross after they are broken in. Gross? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adweisbe Posted June 6, 2009 Share Posted June 6, 2009 trojans get kind of gross after they are broken in. Gross? He is making a double entendre referring to Trojan condoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MoreChains Posted June 6, 2009 Author Share Posted June 6, 2009 Oh hell, I walked into that one.... (where's the forehead slapping icon?) Sorry, but that's just wrong!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM3808 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 I had mine tuned prior to breakin, had hammer follow after about a thousand rounds and had to have things adjusted some. No big deal, no ADs or anything but I would wait till after breakin next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 I put maybe a hundred rounds through mine, just cause I felt like it, before I left it with Matt McLearn for a reliability package, tuning, trigger job etc. I went pretty much full-bore, all new fire control parts etc so I didn't see any reason to break it in since the hammer, trigger, sear, disconnector, sear, sear spring, mainspring, mainspring cap, firing pin, firing pin spring, recoil spring, ambi safeties, and extractor were all new. Pretty much everything except the barrel, bushing, frame, slide, grip safety and guide rod were new. R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putty Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 I just got some burner grips and a magwell and shot it. Sent it to JPL later on for aftec and extended ejector (as I cannot seem to fit one) , magwell blending and grip safety pinned. He may have done some trigger work as well. He had to send it back to STI as they did not finish ream the extractor hole, so you couldnt fit a new aftec. Shoots really nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 trojans get kind of gross after they are broken in. Gross? He is making a double entendre referring to Trojan condoms. Lol...I'm so glad STI picked that name for the gun, the jokes just write themselves... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MoreChains Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 (edited) You may discover you're perfectly happy with it "as is".~Mitch A very good point! I put maybe a hundred rounds through mine, just cause I felt like it, before I left it with Matt McLearn for a reliability package, tuning, trigger job etc. I went pretty much full-bore, all new fire control parts etc so I didn't see any reason to break it in since the hammer, trigger, sear, disconnector, sear, sear spring, mainspring, mainspring cap, firing pin, firing pin spring, recoil spring, ambi safeties, and extractor were all new. Pretty much everything except the barrel, bushing, frame, slide, grip safety and guide rod were new. R, Bart, that makes sense. If I was going to swap out all the internals like you did, I guess breaking it in would be kind of a moot point other than the wearing in the side rails... For me, I think I'm going to put my faith in STI (based on everything I've heard about their pistols), and am anticipating that this gun will probably be just fine 'out of the box'. That said, I'm sure some aspects can be improved upon, but will probably do as recommended and break it in and see how it shoots before doing anything else. Thanks again for the replies. PS, how do people feel about the Trojan's STippling on the front strap? A good use for grip tape? Edited June 9, 2009 by 2MoreChains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MoreChains Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 trojans get kind of gross after they are broken in. Gross? He is making a double entendre referring to Trojan condoms. Lol...I'm so glad STI picked that name for the gun, the jokes just write themselves... ...sigh... that they do... Want to learn about Greek mythology? Just peruse the condom aisle in a grocery store... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrflyer Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 Had mine for a year or so and haven't changed anything on it. Runs great as is for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddjob Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 I have zero problems with the Trojan's front strap....Its feels just fine (go ahead with the jokes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banger Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 I got VCD grips for mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diablodawg Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 I bought basically the same thing, plus hardchrome, about two years ago. I would say tune first. On about the second mag, the slide locked up and could not be pulled back due to the tight tolerances. I had to hammer the slide back, pull the slide stop out, and hammer it forward. Upon doing that, a tiny sliver of metal came out, and it has run flawlessly ever since. In case you are wondering, ammo was WWB or equivalent. I absolutely love it now, but I can't say I wasn't disheartened when that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 They really should make a version with finger grooves... Advertise it as "Ribbed" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2MoreChains Posted June 14, 2009 Author Share Posted June 14, 2009 I bought basically the same thing, plus hardchrome, about two years ago. I would say tune first. On about the second mag, the slide locked up and could not be pulled back due to the tight tolerances. I had to hammer the slide back, pull the slide stop out, and hammer it forward. Upon doing that, a tiny sliver of metal came out, and it has run flawlessly ever since. In case you are wondering, ammo was WWB or equivalent. I absolutely love it now, but I can't say I wasn't disheartened when that happened. That's never a good thing....glad to hear it's working good now. Where did the metal come from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diablodawg Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 If I remember correctly it came from where the barrel and frame meet directly underneath the feed ramp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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