JGH4445 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Just got my new 550 put together today. Everything looks like its working fine except I can't get a consistent thrown charge. I'm using AA #5 which I thought was a fairly good powder for powder measures. I'm loading 45 Colt and wanting 9.5 gr. I'm getting charges like 9.5, 9.8, 9.4, 10.1, 10.6, 8.4. Those were 6 in a row that I threw. I'm using a terminator D digital scale that zeros and calibrates just fine. Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d5357 Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 Just got my new 550 put together today. Everything looks like its working fine except I can't get a consistent thrown charge. I'm using AA #5 which I thought was a fairly good powder for powder measures. I'm loading 45 Colt and wanting 9.5 gr. I'm getting charges like 9.5, 9.8, 9.4, 10.1, 10.6, 8.4. Those were 6 in a row that I threw. I'm using a terminator D digital scale that zeros and calibrates just fine. Any suggestions? Since it is brand new, first thought is to run the adjustment screw on the powder bar all the way out then back in to zero. If there is some foreign material in the cavity it may be what causing this inconsistency. My 550 powder measure/bar are very consistent, have not had problem you describe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGH4445 Posted February 8, 2009 Author Share Posted February 8, 2009 Thanks d..I'll give it a try. Just got my new 550 put together today. Everything looks like its working fine except I can't get a consistent thrown charge. I'm using AA #5 which I thought was a fairly good powder for powder measures. I'm loading 45 Colt and wanting 9.5 gr. I'm getting charges like 9.5, 9.8, 9.4, 10.1, 10.6, 8.4. Those were 6 in a row that I threw. I'm using a terminator D digital scale that zeros and calibrates just fine. Any suggestions? Since it is brand new, first thought is to run the adjustment screw on the powder bar all the way out then back in to zero. If there is some foreign material in the cavity it may be what causing this inconsistency. My 550 powder measure/bar are very consistent, have not had problem you describe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkeeler Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 First make sure the powder is 3/4 full and throw 15 charges and dumb them back in the powder hopper. Then start measuring your powder throws. Hope that helps. I have a 550 and have no problems. I start every loading session the same way I described above. BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JThompson Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 (edited) Also make sure the powder bar travel to the full extents... in some cases the fail safe rod assembly will hit and cause it not to travel properly. Also, make sure that the failsafe rod is doing it's job and pulling the bar all the way back. Edited February 8, 2009 by JThompson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGH4445 Posted February 8, 2009 Author Share Posted February 8, 2009 Thanks guys..I tightened up the fail safe bar, ran the screw all the way in and out, have thrown 50 or more charges and it is getting better. They are now all within a tenth. I did notice it sometimes "rains" a little powder when the casing is about half way back down to the bottom. I think this is the fail safe bar not completely closing. I'll tighten up some more. Also make sure the powder bar travel to the full extents... in some cases the fail safe rod assembly will hit and cause it not to travel properly. Also, make sure that the failsafe rod is doing it's job and pulling the bar all the way back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted February 8, 2009 Share Posted February 8, 2009 The above +, From a previous post Dillon's answer A couple of things to check: First, be sure that you are flaring the case mouth enough to consistently activate the powder measure. In my experience, the case mouth should be flared at least .010" larger than a sized, unflared case. Next, the spring above the blue wing nut should be considerably compressed when you push forward on the handle to seat the the primer. This makes sure the powder bar is pulled all the way back to pick up a consistent charge. Finally, be sure you start with the measure at least 2/3-3/4 full, throw about 15 powder charges to settle the powder under the baffle, then start weighing the charges. ph34r.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGH4445 Posted February 8, 2009 Author Share Posted February 8, 2009 Thanks so much guys. The fail safe rod appears to have been the problem.I'm coming from a Rock Chucker to a "red machine" that always needed some kind of fixing to this blue machine. This one is really smooth and I think I'll really like it once I can trust it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JThompson Posted February 9, 2009 Share Posted February 9, 2009 Thanks so much guys. The fail safe rod appears to have been the problem.I'm coming from a Rock Chucker to a "red machine" that always needed some kind of fixing to this blue machine. This one is really smooth and I think I'll really like it once I can trust it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveZ Posted February 11, 2009 Share Posted February 11, 2009 I tried running AA #5 for the first time on my 550B to load up some 9mm and found I was having problems with the power bar becoming very "sticky" after as few as 10 rounds loaded...after 100 rounds, the powder bar was really sticking. It appeared that the power (which is very fine and flat) was slipping between the power bar and spacer. I called up Dillon and found that they don't recommend AA #5....the tech guy nearly described the problem before I was able to explain what I was experiencing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpeltier Posted February 17, 2009 Share Posted February 17, 2009 Dissasemble the powder measure and remove the powder die and see if powder is stuck all over it. Clean it with some solvent and reassemble it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Man Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Dissasemble the powder measure and remove the powder die and see if powder is stuck all over it. Clean it with some solvent and reassemble it. I'd use something that is going to flash off like brake cleaner, alcohol or laquer thinner. FM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGH4445 Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 Thanks for all the relies and advice. I tightened down all of the parts, made sure all the adjustments were correct and cleaned everything. No more problem. I'm amazed at the accuracy of this measure with the right powders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h8dirt Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I test/adjust my 550B by dropping 10 individual charges in a very clean and dry case which I then dump into my powder scale pan. Since I load 4.5 grains of VV310, I am looking for 45.0 grains with 10 charges. Using this method, mine will consistently drop 45 gr. +/- 0.1 grains -- which equates to 4.5 gr +/- 0.01 grains per charge. In summary: VERY consistent with VV310. P.S. I also regularly measure a single charge during loading sessions (usually about every 25 or so) and have never missed 4.5 grains using this method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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