.45 Minor ICORE load - again...

[1911 rookie]

So I (and it sounds like others) have ditched the idea of the 185 gr HBRN bullets for a minor load. But let's beat this horse some more. What does work? I know I saw some posts about the 200gr RN but I can't seem to find them again. Anybody have load data and chrono data on these? I have given up on the thought of a real minor load what I really want is CLEAN and accurate enough. I don't want icky black soot and I don't want unburned powder, who does?. If I have to shoot 140Pf I will consider that minor. I mean, come on, can you really tell the difference in a 625 with a 6.5" barrel between 125 and 140PF?

Thanks,

Jason

[AzShooter]

I use 230 LRN with 3.2 grains of SOLO 1000 for minor. It's the most accurate load out of my 625. I also have used lots of bullseye witht he same results but SOLO has less recoil.

The biggest thing is to test 50 yards compared to your 25 and see if you have to aim at the bottom of the target because your bullet will still be rizing at 50. Bottom of A ring works for me.

[coldchar]

4.5 gr Clays 879, 4.4 Clays 874, 4.3 Clays 849, 4.2 Clays 834, 4.1 Clays 832, 4.0 Clays 788

4.6 Tightgroup 851, 4.5 tightgroup 835, 4.3 Tightgroup 787, 4.2 Tightgroup 778, 4.1 Tightgroup 752, 4.0 Tightgroup 742.

These were in a 5" 1911 Kart Barrel.

I use Tightgroup of small volume loads for minor.

Clays for higher volume major loads.

Tightgroup gets really weird when too much gets in the case. As I understand it, it is a nitro based powder requiring a lot of oxygen. When it runs out of air trying to make major it gets really erratic.

[EZ Bagger]

4.5 gr Clays 879, 4.4 Clays 874, 4.3 Clays 849, 4.2 Clays 834, 4.1 Clays 832, 4.0 Clays 788

4.6 Tightgroup 851, 4.5 tightgroup 835, 4.3 Tightgroup 787, 4.2 Tightgroup 778, 4.1 Tightgroup 752, 4.0 Tightgroup 742.

These were in a 5" 1911 Kart Barrel.

I use Tightgroup of small volume loads for minor.

Clays for higher volume major loads.

Tightgroup gets really weird when too much gets in the case. As I understand it, it is a nitro based powder requiring a lot of oxygen. When it runs out of air trying to make major it gets really erratic.

What bullet type/weight?

[Tom E]

I use 4.0 gr of WST with a 200 gr SWC for bullseye with my 5" 625-8. Less powder will work, I've used down to 3.5 gr, but 4.0 seems to be the point at which it burns well. Only problem with my data is that the powder is 15 yrs old (8lb can). 4.7 with a 230 RN makes major with this can of powder.

[coldchar]

4.5 gr Clays 879, 4.4 Clays 874, 4.3 Clays 849, 4.2 Clays 834, 4.1 Clays 832, 4.0 Clays 788

4.6 Tightgroup 851, 4.5 tightgroup 835, 4.3 Tightgroup 787, 4.2 Tightgroup 778, 4.1 Tightgroup 752, 4.0 Tightgroup 742.

These were in a 5" 1911 Kart Barrel.

I use Tightgroup of small volume loads for minor.

Clays for higher volume major loads.

Tightgroup gets really weird when too much gets in the case. As I understand it, it is a nitro based powder requiring a lot of oxygen. When it runs out of air trying to make major it gets really erratic.

What bullet type/weight?

He was asking about the 200 gr Ranier RN- the 200 gr Ranier SWC was exactly the same.

[Steelshooter3]

I'm using 4.5 gr. of Clays behind the Rainer 200 gr. RN in my 625. It received a 137 PF when it was chronographed at Area 1 this summer. However, I am shooting a 625 with a 3" barrel so I'm losing alot more velocity. The Hodgdon book shows the max. at 4.3 gr. My experience with Clays has always been better the closer to the max. I load it. Better accuracy and less unburned residue in the chambers. I've used Clays mostly in .38 special and .45 ACP. Start around 4.1 gr. - this should be pretty close to minor with a 5" barrel. Hope this helps. Good luck.