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BSvrs--

How about 9mm and .40S&W ammo suitable for target practice and for indoor bullseye competition...

How about the Sig Sauer line, in particular my P-239 and P-229...

How about the basics of IPSC, for starters...  Thanks.

3/4--

Have read War and Peace (and numerous other Russian literary works) when I majored in Russian Lit and Russian Language in college. (A. Chekhov was my special area of study). I think The Book will probably be here before I could dash thru W&P a second time ! Nice try, though. Actually, I'll probably try and get thru my latest issue of Gun Tests before The Book arrives...

Phred--

I can look into Matt's DVD as soon as The Book is digested a bit and the home office computer system is upgraded to allow for such function.

Flex$$--

Will pursue the Sierra thing. Thanx. Appreciate it.

Now, see? I just received more info in eight hours than I've received in six months of poking around and asking live people I happen to know personally. Just last night I was reflecting on how the Internet has changed our lives in terms of information exchange and rapid transmittal of data and knowledge (and entertainment)... need I say more...?

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How about 9mm and .40S&W ammo suitable for target practice and for indoor bullseye competition...

I only use factory USA/PMC type ammo in my 226 and find it fine for IPSC and action pistol type matches. I would reload 9mm if I shot it more, but would rather buy it, as it is also real cheap. I load thousands of 38Super rounds per year. I load 40 but have found Win white box to be as accurate as my vv320 reloads. Every gun is different and responds differently to ammo. I would consider reloading for the GREAT cost advantage as well as reloads can be much more accurate than factory ammo. If I were shooting Bullseye I would use a 1911 for the trigger but you can shoot well and have fun with a Sig. Most are 12-25 yards so I think with good factory ammo you are fine. You would need to try different kinds to see if there would be one better for "your" gun. Most are very good though. Its just if you want to squeeze that extra small group out of your gun you need to experiment. And you won't need to change your name.

How about the Sig Sauer line, in particular my P-239 and P-229...

All Sigs seem to work well and are very accurate. My 226 is accurate enought to shoot a paster offhand at 15 yards. As I am a IPSC specialist that's good enough for me. A Pro bulleye shooter wouldn't raise their eyes unless we were talking 50 yards. Different games.

How about the basics of IPSC, for starters...  Thanks.

Brian's book(when you get it:) ), Matt's/Jerry's/Ron's tapes are great. I think Brian still sells a reloading tape if you go that route.  I would say try your local club but there are in IPSC, as in any sport, all types. Some people are on a macho/ego trip or simply lack people skills and I would hate to see a new shooter quit before they start. 95% of the people are high quality people. Good jobs, character and personalities.

What state do you live in? I might know someone that I could introduce you to, to help you get into IPSC. Its the best shooting game there is. I have been in it for a long time and still have a great time at matches. A pistol is by far the most difficult gun to master and (No-one flame me) IPSC is the most difficult gungame to master. It tests many different skills on demand. The secret to winning and statying with it is to shoot at your level of ability and shoot for your goals not someone elses.

Yes the Internet has changed my life very much.

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LFR--

I may have used the work "exercises" (for lack of better word at that moment) incorrectly when I probably meant something more like "protocols" or "procedures"... as opposed to "drills" or "practice-to-get-better" exercises. Apologies for the ambiguity.

BSvrs--

Thanks for the totally insightful post. I'm printing out all these responses for follow-up.

I'm in Eugene, Oregon, but have a medical problem with left hip and may need serious treatment. Can't handle dashing from stage to stage in competition at the moment. (Will have medical verdict Friday.) I do know a couple of IPSC shooters... just haven't pursued it due to aforementioned condition. However, it wouldn't hurt to know more people in IPSC in case we have entirely different contacts... or even if they overlap--all the better.

Have no intention of "quitting", you betcha. If there's a determined, dead-damn-serious and passionate person dedicated to mastery anywhere it's yerz truly. I'm not a threat to other shooters (yet!) who've been at it for 10-20 years, but come next spring I should be quite consistent IF my progress continues at its present rate. Just a matter of good practice and more good practice. And more good practice. And not getting upset if I blow a target during league. The indoor league action feels like I'm being subjected to a series of high-level pop quizzes. By engaging in league I'm forcing myself to learn faster and endure the pain of making the occasional mistake here 'n there (in public!)... and not going suicidal as a result. But rather looking for ways to improve... at all times.

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The Laser Cast reloading manual is the best I've ever read. It's full of good information, and actually fun to read. Much of it was written by Grand Master Bruce Gray. The load tables themselves have stuff on powders and calibers I've never seen in other manuals. At least according to the chronograph, the velocities stated for a particular powder/bullet combo seem to be spot on.

The great thing about SIGs in general is that you don't need to do any pistolsmithing to them. They work perfectly out-of-the-box. AAAMOF where fans of some gun types - Glocks and 1911s notably - are notorious for modifying their guns, SIG owners tend to be remarkable for their pride in the fact their guns are totally stock - and work great.  For years SIGs had really crappy DA trigger pulls, but several years ago SIG put a lot of effort into improving their DA pulls, so today even those are nice. I'd say leave the guns alone and just focus on shooting.

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DT--

Thanks for the tip about Laser Cast... I'm adding it to the seriously growing research list. I have my work cut out for me. But actually it won't be work.

The SiGs have, as you say, been reliable--though my P229 has yet to see as much regular use as the P239. Both pistols have a great feel (at least for this lady) and if I apply proper fundamentals they perform incredibly. Interestingly, they do have a nice reputation... people often want to know what I'm shooting, so when I show them their eyebrows visibly rise about a ¼ inch or so. It's amusing. Now all I need to do is earn the right to that reputation by my own performance.

The only changes I made to both pistols were full Hogue rubber grips, replacing the plastic ones. I loathe the feel of plastic despite its ubiquity in the industry right now. The rubber grips feel so much more, well, organic--like leather. I just shoot it and clean it and shoot it and clean it. And show 'em off sometimes.

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Quote: from SiG Lady on 9:15 pm on Oct. 8, 2002

Both pistols have a great feel []

The only changes I made to both pistols were full Hogue rubber gripss

Sig offer a factory trigger job that makes an already good DA trigger into an exceptional DA trigger.  The work is approved and accomplished by Sig - the result is a safe trigger job with an excellent DA feel.  Phone Exeter and talk to service if you’re interested.  BTW if you don’t already know, when/if the need arises you can order parts directly from Sig.

While on the subject of Sig – the Sig Academy is extremely good value.  Unfortunately,, well not really that unfortunate Oregon is a lovely place,, the Academy is located near the factory in New Hampshire.  Still if the opportunity presents itself, IMHO grab it.

Cheers,

Phred

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" I just shoot it and clean it and shoot it and clean it."

Uhmmmmmm,  interesting philosophy.  Much better sounding than my own,   shoot and shoot and shoot and shoot and, oh well I guess I should clean this pig up!!! and shoot and shoot and shoot and ...

Maybe I should try yours,,,nah!!!  I just washed my hands!!!

P.S.  Note to blaster,,,rest easy dirty pig!!!

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Phred--

Some time ago I actually put myself on the e-mailing list of SiGARMS Academy just to stay informed about their offerings. Yes, their NH location is a tad out of the way but almost everything is out of the way of Oregon--in more ways than one.

The trigger feels OK for the time being and I'll probably leave both pistols stock until my skills meet my expectations (strictly a subjective assessment)... or unless something breaks down. But it sounds like that's unlikely.

Yeh, I do clean the things somewhat religiously after range sessions. Just playin' it safe and tryin' to abide by maintenance rules. Sometimes it feels like just another damn' chore, but more often than not it's a good opportunity to routinely inspect them and think about my next practice session. So far the SiGs have been pretty forgiving about my use of 'em. If I'm abusing them in any way, they haven't complained. :)

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You have probably started reading it, so enjoy.  :)

There is a lot in there, I recomend that you don't try to squeeze all the juice out of it the first time through.

If you don't get something, don't get hung up on it.  There is more good stuff on the next page.  You will want to go to the range, and see for yourself.  Then, after you have digested the first reading, and it might take hours, days, months, or years, go back and read it again.

The bit on the last page is perhaps the best bit of wisdom there.

I could be wrong.

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You bet I began reading it right away. :)

It's definitely a book within my comfort zone and one that might be picked up and put down intermittently for quite a long while. Some books are like that... can be re-read later and continue to impart their wisdom on different levels at different times--as often happens with publications dealing with awareness. Every page/paragraph/line is loaded. Well worth it already.

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He ran away before I had a chance to ask!

But here's the other part of the story: Sent original payment Sept 12. Still no book by end of month. benos kindly offers to send second copy about one week ago. Book arrives yesterday with postmark of Sept 17--which I suspect is the FIRST shipment. Which likely means SECOND shipment still on the way. (Of course, will return second book... if it arrives.)

Meanwhile, I'm devouring the content as you might well imagine. Great line on page 9 (one of thousands, actually): "There's a level where the causes and effects are the same thing and actually become nothing at all." Chamber that one and fire it!

I feel another limerick coming on.

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