chp5 Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I like the large M&P backstrap - but want it without the palmswells. Does anyone make one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike cyrwus Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I like the large M&P backstrap - but want it without the palmswells. Does anyone make one? I could shape and stipple one for you; Ive been doing a little work with these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chp5 Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 Mike - PM sent. Thx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjbine Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I would like to see pics of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chp5 Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 Does S&W sell spare backstraps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberneck Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Does S&W sell spare backstraps? Brownells has them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisStock Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 SpeedShooterSpecialties has them for $2.50 per backstrap. If you want to practice doing it yourself, it's a cheap way to go. I met the owner, KennyD this past weekend at the Florida Sectionals, and they don't get any nicer. Good luck in your search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike cyrwus Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 (edited) At $2.50 per backstrap, he blows brownell's dealer prices out of the water. Heres some of my stippling. Edited November 5, 2007 by mike cyrwus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I like the large M&P backstrap - but want it without the palmswells. Does anyone make one? I felt the same. I liked the large backstrap, but didn't like it with the palmswells. Where would that put a production shooter? I am thinking the 2008 rules will allow for stippling, but I don't know about changing the physical shape ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike cyrwus Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I like the large M&P backstrap - but want it without the palmswells. Does anyone make one? I felt the same. I liked the large backstrap, but didn't like it with the palmswells. Where would that put a production shooter? I am thinking the 2008 rules will allow for stippling, but I don't know about changing the physical shape ?? you are correct, this would be akin to a grip reduction, and would be not allowed in production even with the stippling. I play in Limited and L10 with mine, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberneck Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 I like the large M&P backstrap - but want it without the palmswells. Does anyone make one? I felt the same. I liked the large backstrap, but didn't like it with the palmswells. Where would that put a production shooter? I am thinking the 2008 rules will allow for stippling, but I don't know about changing the physical shape ?? you are correct, this would be akin to a grip reduction, and would be not allowed in production even with the stippling. I play in Limited and L10 with mine, though. But what if the size of the large insert with the palmswells removed is still the same size, or slightly larger than the gun with the smallest factory insert? If it is I don't know how it could be ruled that it constitutes a grip reduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 But what if the size of the large insert with the palmswells removed is still the same size, or slightly larger than the gun with the smallest factory insert? If it is I don't know how it could be ruled that it constitutes a grip reduction. Easily --- the reduced size insert doesn't match the size and contour of any of the factory offered inserts, hence, welcome to Open, if discovered during a match..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throwin Lead Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 But what if the size of the large insert with the palmswells removed is still the same size, or slightly larger than the gun with the smallest factory insert? If it is I don't know how it could be ruled that it constitutes a grip reduction. Easily --- the reduced size insert doesn't match the size and contour of any of the factory offered inserts, hence, welcome to Open, if discovered during a match..... Bury it under grip tape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chp5 Posted November 6, 2007 Author Share Posted November 6, 2007 I like the large M&P backstrap - but want it without the palmswells. Does anyone make one? I felt the same. I liked the large backstrap, but didn't like it with the palmswells. Where would that put a production shooter? I am thinking the 2008 rules will allow for stippling, but I don't know about changing the physical shape ?? I didn't realize the stippling will be allowed in Production. Will narrowing a Glock trigger guard be allowed. Probably not, but I'll ask anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chp5 Posted November 6, 2007 Author Share Posted November 6, 2007 Heres some of my stippling. Great looking work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike cyrwus Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 But what if the size of the large insert with the palmswells removed is still the same size, or slightly larger than the gun with the smallest factory insert? If it is I don't know how it could be ruled that it constitutes a grip reduction. Easily --- the reduced size insert doesn't match the size and contour of any of the factory offered inserts, hence, welcome to Open, if discovered during a match..... Bury it under grip tape? I could easily hide a grip or palmswell reduction on a glock, XD, or M&P with stippling, just like certain styles of stippling slightly increase the grip size , but Id never do it. John Amidon told me that the M&P was submitted for production division with a factory offered backstrap. And a factory offered backstrap must be present on the gun, in order to satisfy Production Division rules. We got three choices, small, medium, and large. If someone is right on the cusp of the medium and large sizes, I would recommend checking out a stippled or grip taped medium backstrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike cyrwus Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 I like the large M&P backstrap - but want it without the palmswells. Does anyone make one? I felt the same. I liked the large backstrap, but didn't like it with the palmswells. Where would that put a production shooter? I am thinking the 2008 rules will allow for stippling, but I don't know about changing the physical shape ?? I didn't realize the stippling will be allowed in Production. Will narrowing a Glock trigger guard be allowed. Probably not, but I'll ask anyway. nope, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bagdrag Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 (edited) I've got a question. Is it possible to shoot production without any of the backstraps attached and just wrap the M&P in grip tape? I must have the smallest hands I can think of because none of the M&P grips work for me. Edited November 6, 2007 by bagdrag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike cyrwus Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 I've got a question. Is it possible to shoot production without any of the backstraps attached and just wrap the M&P in grip tape? I must have the smallest hands I can think of because none of the M&P grips work for me. No; this is another point that Mr. Amidon made clear; a backstrap must be on the gun. sorry. I will say that a trigger job if you dont have one already, will move the triggers break point to the further rearward so the small backstrap may accomodate your finger reach a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chp5 Posted November 6, 2007 Author Share Posted November 6, 2007 I like the large M&P backstrap - but want it without the palmswells. Does anyone make one? I felt the same. I liked the large backstrap, but didn't like it with the palmswells. Where would that put a production shooter? I am thinking the 2008 rules will allow for stippling, but I don't know about changing the physical shape ?? I didn't realize the stippling will be allowed in Production. Will narrowing a Glock trigger guard be allowed. Probably not, but I'll ask anyway. nope, sorry. Bummer. I like LTD better anyway Less reloads . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YukonGlocker Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 I've seen Mike Cyrwus's work on M&P pistols. It is excellent work. His stippled back straps really help when gripping the pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chp5 Posted November 13, 2007 Author Share Posted November 13, 2007 (edited) At $2.50 per backstrap, he blows brownell's dealer prices out of the water.Heres some of my stippling. I just got one from Mike like the one on the far right. It's great! Mike - can you do one that's Prod legal? Edited November 13, 2007 by chp5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike cyrwus Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Glad you like it; Im sure you understand that until 2008, no stippling of any kind is allowed in Prod. After Jan1 2008, as I read the rules, and in the spirit of Mr. Amidon's previous comments on this stippling rule, The only allowable backstraps are those that maintain one of the three factory contours. So the question for you is; small backstrap; no palm swells, or large backstrap with the arch you like but the width that you dont.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdoyle Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Running a M and P with the new rules of production. Have some from the pics above, they are awesome. You do great work brother. Keep it up. Ohh I have them all and have been swithching them around. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ledge Posted January 6, 2008 Share Posted January 6, 2008 Running a M and P with the new rules of production. Have some from the pics above, they are awesome. You do great work brother. Keep it up. Ohh I have them all and have been swithching them around. Which one seems to be the stickiest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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