Dump1567 Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 I have the oppurtunity to buy an SPS frame kit, but no nothing about SPS other than they're out of Spain. Any info. or link to info. would be greatly appreciated (quality, specs compared to SV/STI, etc.) Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julien Boit Posted April 15, 2003 Share Posted April 15, 2003 I shot SPS pistols for the last two seasons and I can say that's pretty good stuff. The quality is lower than a SV or a STI but this is still good. I built my two modifieds on SPS lowers. The only drawback I've figured is that there is a little space between the grip and the frame when fitting a SV/STI grip. No big deal, but for the cosmetics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjanglin Posted April 16, 2003 Share Posted April 16, 2003 where are you getting the SPS Frames & parts? Jim Anglin Sailors custom Pistols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter Grrl Posted April 16, 2003 Share Posted April 16, 2003 AFAIK, SPS are still a direct patent infringement on the STI/SV pistols and can't be sold here in the States. I'd steer clear of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spook Posted April 16, 2003 Share Posted April 16, 2003 I've heard nothing but good things about them. As far as the infringement thing: that to me would be an indication that the SPS guns are pretty good They can't be sold in the US, that's right. But then again. the SPS is about as much like an S_I, as an EEA witness is like a CZ. The only reason that EEA can be sold at all, is because CZ didn't patent their design back in 1975. They didn't expect the design to be so succesful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dump1567 Posted April 16, 2003 Author Share Posted April 16, 2003 I'm buying it private party from a very well known shooter. I don't know where he got it or how long it's been in the states. You can't pass up on any long wide frame kit in CA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted April 16, 2003 Share Posted April 16, 2003 I got one second hand as well. Here is the SPS website. So far mine has been great. Good luck with yours. -ld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted April 16, 2003 Share Posted April 16, 2003 Here is a link to the US patent drawings of the S_I frame and grip. Appears that the frame issued 1st; Feb. 8, 1994; then the grip frame combo on Mar. 8 1994. http://www.roderuscustom.tzo.com/cgi-bin/i...t=ST;f=14;t=187 We know of the SPS; there is also a posibility that Brazil's Imbel company was producing a copy, though I do not have confirmation of it. I think that S_I frames are overpriced considering the complexity of machining the frame compared to the cost of manufacturing traditional 1911 frames. OTOH, I apreciate S_I's inovation and support for our sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted April 16, 2003 Share Posted April 16, 2003 I forgot to mention that my SPS is the grip only. The frame is an STI, I have no idea what the rest of it is. The fit of the grip to the frame is pretty good but there are a couple of spots in the back where some sharp angular projections come out. They don't seem to hit my hand while firing so I haven't really bothered to do anything about them. -ld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dump1567 Posted April 17, 2003 Author Share Posted April 17, 2003 jhgtyre, Thanks for the website link. That's a pretty fun website. I haven't seen the frame kit yet. It's suppose to be dropped-off at my gunsmith within the next few weeks. I'll have him check it out. If anything is hinky, I won't buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted April 17, 2003 Share Posted April 17, 2003 I think that S_I frames are overpriced considering the complexity of machining the frame compared to the cost of manufacturing traditional 1911 frames. OTOH, I apreciate S_I's inovation and support for our sport. Cough up $100-250K in tooling, R&D, and maintenance for what is and will always be a low-volume product at best.........then come back and tell me what you're selling is "overpriced." It doesn't take squat to steal intellectual property. It does take a lot of money and hell of a penchant for risk to create it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Posted April 17, 2003 Share Posted April 17, 2003 Eric I really have to agree with you . I mean here we have two great companies in the USA supporting our sport with excellent products. The choice is easy for me , I own an STI and an SV . The foreign rip off artists should not be rewarded for their thievery. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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