blkbrd Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Just go out and buy some Clays. Its dirt cheep and availible everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 (edited) I use Win 2314.5 grains with a 230 grain LRN bullet. 231 = HP 38 - for purposes of loading .45 ACP. You are better off w/ straight Clays or Solo 1000 though. Edited January 18, 2007 by Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 TiteGroup - I have used it for everything. People say it's dirty.. it's relative. I do prefer the slower 230s, but I've used it with 185s, and 230s. W231 is fine, WST is fine. I bought a bunch of WST - basically I'm hust using it up now.. When I started playing aroud with 200s, I only did those with WST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Metal Only Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I just started reloading, No. 343 mentioned using clays and I tried it. I'm loading 5 gr. of clays w/ 230 rn. This is a fine load. On the other hand, come on comp. shooters. The furthest shot on our range is about 25 yards you don't really need a super powerful anything. Plus I heard everyone is complaining about 180-190 power factor for heavy metal so it defeats what powder you use. I don't think it matters in OK. I've not ever had anyone question my p.f. on the range, but I'm not the #1 shot either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 CLAYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinMike Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 (edited) I'm loading 5 gr. of clays w/ 230 rn. This is a fine load. Yikes, that's a big dose of Clays! Edited January 18, 2007 by AustinMike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny hill Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I'm loading 5 gr. of clays w/ 230 rn. This is a fine load. Yikes, that's a big dose of Clays! Yikes..WOW! IMO that is a load that is way way to hot..... I would not even think of trying it. The Hodgdon book show a 230 at 4.0 making about 168 PF. Another full grain...not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkbrd Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I use 3.9gr Clays under a 230gr plated for 169PF, 5gr. sounds WAY high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyreb Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Winchester Super Target. Been using nothing else in .45 for over a dozen years. Just started using it in .40 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I use 3.9gr Clays under a 230gr plated for 169PF, 5gr. sounds WAY high. I've been doing 4.0 grains for awhile....good load. I use Precision Bullet's 230 grain roundnose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revchuck Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Use up some of your Unique, especially if it's the new version. In my S&W M22, 6.3 grains under a 230 grain FMJ goes over 800 fps and - blasphemy though it may be - left no unburnt powder under the extractor star. Even if you have the older version, the "dirty" part is cosmetic. You could probably go over a thousand rounds without cleaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elenius Posted January 20, 2007 Author Share Posted January 20, 2007 Use up some of your Unique, especially if it's the new version. In my S&W M22, 6.3 grains under a 230 grain FMJ goes over 800 fps and - blasphemy though it may be - left no unburnt powder under the extractor star.Even if you have the older version, the "dirty" part is cosmetic. You could probably go over a thousand rounds without cleaning. I know! It is new and says "cleaner burning" on the container. I load 6.8 grains of it in 38 special for a very nice and clean major PF load. No residue whatsoever, and surprisingly soft. You just need enough pressure to burn it I guess. I guess I'll just try all the powders, except maybe 2400 which is a very slow magnum powder. Loaded up a few hundred Titegroup loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revchuck Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 (edited) Use up some of your Unique, especially if it's the new version. In my S&W M22, 6.3 grains under a 230 grain FMJ goes over 800 fps and - blasphemy though it may be - left no unburnt powder under the extractor star. Even if you have the older version, the "dirty" part is cosmetic. You could probably go over a thousand rounds without cleaning. I know! It is new and says "cleaner burning" on the container. I load 6.8 grains of it in 38 special for a very nice and clean major PF load. No residue whatsoever, and surprisingly soft. You just need enough pressure to burn it I guess. I guess I'll just try all the powders, except maybe 2400 which is a very slow magnum powder. Loaded up a few hundred Titegroup loads. I hope you're using a .357 Mag for that load. 6.8 grains is what I load in .357 Magnum brass - it's the listed max for 158 grain lead bullets in .357 Magnum. Edited January 20, 2007 by revchuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elenius Posted January 20, 2007 Author Share Posted January 20, 2007 I hope you're using a .357 Mag for that load. 6.8 grains is what I load in .357 Magnum brass - it's the listed max for 158 grain lead bullets in .357 Magnum. Yes, I shoot it in a Ruger GP100. It's much weaker than most magnum loads, though. It makes just over major PF, and with very little flash and bang. I saw the load in a thread on this forum and worked my way up to it. No pressure signs. Using mixed 38 spl brass, although I did throw out my old amerc brass. The shorter brass makes it easier to load, and 38 spl is more readily available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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