bpowe Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Kirk, Have you had time for any more SP8 testing? Grafs has gone up to $70/8lbs but that's still a good deal if the powder is working out... Was it possible to make major with 115s? Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Sorry, I can't say that I've been shooting much this year at all. I havn't had some free time to work up a load for the 115's. I'll try to revisit the project soon and get back. If the 115's work, then I'd have something fun to practice with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 I finally got to the range to chrono the 115's. I wasn't thrilled with the primers, although they aren't any worse than the HS-6 at 174pf. I'm going to drop the load down a bit and see what happens. It feels good, if the primers can improve a bit, then it may be a winner. 8.8g SP-8 115g MG CMJ Lo=1453 Ave=1479 High=1500 SD=13 ES=47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecichlid Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 Hummmmm I am wondering how the primers would look with a lighter charge but a 124 grain bullet instead. My gun really likes 124's Joe W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 Hummmmm I am wondering how the primers would look with a lighter charge but a 124 grain bullet instead. My gun really likes 124's smile.gif The first loads that I tested were 124's. 8.2g of SP-8 with a MG 124 cmj and 1.175"oal got me to 169pf. The primers were fine. This was for 9major, might need a little more for a super. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecichlid Posted September 7, 2006 Share Posted September 7, 2006 OK, that would make the 8.2 a good start for a .38 Super load if you ask me. Joe W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokey Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 (edited) [Merged thread] A local powder dealer has about 24 pounds of Vectan SP-8 on sale for $10/pound. I like the price and after looking around here all I could find were some very favorable posts on SP-2. I looked at Nobelsport's website and after slogging around for half an hour (should have taken French instead of German in college!) I found a burn rate chart from them: http://www.nobelsport.fr/nobelsport/fr/sch...vacite_2006.pdf They have it burning the same as HS-7, SR 4756, and 3N37. It looks like I can come up with a load that makes PF and is safe. Has anyone ever used this powder for their Open .38 Super? Thanks! Edited November 13, 2006 by Flexmoney Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide45 Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Try this thread. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=36433 The search tool is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Other than Noblesports website, the other charts list SP-8 in the range of HS-6 and N340. It doesn't produce as much gas as N350 or 3N37. I got mine from Graffs (SP?) and it was $7.50 a pound. I don't think it's the "perfect" powder, but it is cheap and it does work. See if you can buy a pound for testing before you get 24# of something that you may not like. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue edge Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 (edited) Hey .40AET Other than Noblesports website, the other charts list SP-8 in the range of HS-6 and N340. It doesn't produce as much gas as N350 or 3N37. I got mine from Graffs (SP?) and it was $7.50 a pound. I don't think it's the "perfect" powder, but it is cheap and it does work. See if you can buy a pound for testing before you get 24# of something that you may not like. Good luck. I know you were testing sp8,are you still using it? Edited November 12, 2006 by blue edge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 I know you were testing sp8,are you still using it? Yes. But I'm not shooting near as much as I did last year. I haven't had a chance to run 1k through it and see if it's worth the effort. I changed jobs at work and sneaking over to the range just hasn't been easy lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSmileyX Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 (edited) Resurrection! I've been using this for 9mm minor loads, just because I happen to have so much of it, and it works ok. 4.7 grains of Sp8 behind a 147 grain berry's is softer shooting than 3.6 of clays with a 124 grain precision at least it seems that way to me. I am going to have to change my original "clean burning" assessment to feeeeelthy at lower pressures. Say I have noticed that comparing load data Sp8 seems very similar to "True Blue" at least in 9mm, does anyone have some of both that they could visually compare? Edited April 27, 2007 by DarkSmileyX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Say I have noticed that comparing load data Sp8 seems very similar to "True Blue" at least in 9mm, does anyone have some of both that they could visually compare? They don't look anything alike. True Blue is a tiny ball powder and SP-8 looks more like HS-6. I'm glad someone brought this back up. I shot about 2k rounds of the SP-8 over the winter. It's real clean at major pressures. Burns as clean as any of the Vhit powders that I've shot. It doesn't make enough gas to work the comp as well as HS-6. It is cheap and clean, so it makes a pretty good practice powder. I don't think that I'd use it for a major match though. I've still got a good 6 pounds of it, so I'll be using it for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I got some too, but haven't put it to use yet. I still have a half-jug of SP2 for the open gun, and it's hard for me to get away from TiteGroup for the minor gun. I do need to get into it and develop a load (or two) though...if for nothing other than practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.40AET Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Kyle- You need to let us know which major matches you'll be at with a little more notice. I had a pound of the stuff with me at A8 last year. Had I known that you were there, I gladly would have laid it on you then. If you're going to RO this year at A8, let me know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 I'll start a thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterLefty Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 I chrono'd some SP-8 loads for my baby minor tonight. 6.0 gr, 124 FMJ MG, 1.150" - 928 fps Walked into Fred's loading room and we cranked out 3 rounds at: 6.4 gr, 125 FMJ ??, 1.150" - 1132 fps (1132,1132,1131) -- For comparison -- Win USA 124 gr , 5.9gr Win factory canister, 1133 fps (1134,1133,1133) PD 124 gr training ammo, 6.3 gr Win canister, 901 fps (906, 877, 920) Tested last month Win 115 gr target box - 1052 fps This is with about 2" worth of barrel. YRMV Kenny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSmileyX Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 (edited) They don't look anything alike. True Blue is a tiny ball powder and SP-8 looks more like HS-6. Thanks for clarifying that for me. Edited April 27, 2007 by DarkSmileyX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSmileyX Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Nobel updated thier data and changed the file names. I couldn't edit my original post so here goes with the new links. Burn Rate Chart Recomended Usage Chart Pistol Loads Rifle Loads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecichlid Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Thanks for the links! I have been looking for some of that information for a while now. Joe W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 I'm going to try 6.3g with some Zero 125's to see how I like them for a (minor) practice load. I'll shoot a few hundred tomorrow, most likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSmileyX Posted June 14, 2007 Share Posted June 14, 2007 I'm going to try 6.3g with some Zero 125's to see how I like them for a (minor) practice load. I'll shoot a few hundred tomorrow, most likely. YMMV but I got 130 pf from 6.0 behind a 124gr Precision delta 1.15 OAL from a 92fs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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