zx9rt1 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Good morning all! I have a Elite Match in 45acp that I'm wanting to put a C-more rail dot on without having to drill and tap the frame. Any suggestions? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 You can use the picatinny rail to mount a UM3 sight mount http://www.umtactical.com/store/p3/UM3_Sight_Mount.html Slide removal will depend on the height of the rear sights vs how high the UM3 sits over the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx9rt1 Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 I was looking at that one pretty hard but was worried about the ejection port to mount clearance. I may just go ahead and give it a try to see how it does. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tictacticaltimmy Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 I am currently using the UM3 mount with my 10mm Witness Steel and feel ambivalent towards it. I use this as my long range precision pistol, not as a competition gun. Pros: -using a cheap TRS25, no zero shift or other issues over a few hundred rounds of heavy 10mm handloads -the holster is really cool. Fast to draw, uses a bladetech paddle which is removable, universal for all guns -you still get a pic rail, which I often use to mount a bipod and/or shellcatcher. That feature alone sold me over the UM3's competition -fits most guns with a picatinny rail, excellent for comparing groups with different loads -you can still use your iron sights without removing the mount Cons: -mounting system is STUPID. it is sopposed to enable quick detach but to detach it on most guns you have to loosen the optic, defeating the purpose -the mounting system is such that if I push back on the UM3 it slides backward on the rail. If this causes a POI shift in a match and you don't notice it happening it could ruin your day -when tightened down on my P07 the tension on the barrel prevents gun from cycling -height over bore is pretty big. With the TRS25 it is 1.25" above irons. Hard to switch back and forth with any other gun and maintain an efficient index Overall, the UM3 would be 3x better if it used a normal cross-bolt system to attach to the rail, but it is still probably the best cheap option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx9rt1 Posted June 27, 2017 Author Share Posted June 27, 2017 How's the slide to mount clearance on it? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tictacticaltimmy Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 there's a good 3\8" or so between the bottom of the rail and slide. it sits up pretty high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx9rt1 Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 Thanks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) zx9rt1,. Sent you a pm Nick Edited June 28, 2017 by NickD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx9rt1 Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 Replied. Thank you!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tampa-XD45 Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 On 6/27/2017 at 10:11 AM, NickD said: You can use the picatinny rail to mount a UM3 sight mount http://www.umtactical.com/store/p3/UM3_Sight_Mount.html Slide removal will depend on the height of the rear sights vs how high the UM3 sits over the slide. I installed this on a friend's Elite Limited and I had to spend about 20 minutes filing the UM3 to get it to fit correctly. Not a big deal, just something to be aware of. After installation it was rock solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx9rt1 Posted June 30, 2017 Author Share Posted June 30, 2017 Works like a champ!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 What is that.... a foot above bore centerline? i would struggle to find the dot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Zx9rt1, Glad it worked out for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zx9rt1 Posted July 1, 2017 Author Share Posted July 1, 2017 johnbu. I just lob 'me right in there. Kinda like a mortar[emoji23]The one on the left sits high too. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Glad you can run it. I STILL lose the dovetail mount dot on my CO gun and it's gobs lower. your gun would be a struggle! I'm really hoping Joe @PatriotDefense gets a fpb solution so he can carve a low home for my viper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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