P09 SA only for IDPA ESP

[ranger]

I have a CGW tuned P09 but I struggle with the DA to SA transition - I am sure it is all my fault and I should be able to master the TDA but again I do not like the DA-SA. How many forum members use the P09 as a SA only platform in IDPA?

[vinceislander]

I play IDPA Production with my P-09 and struggle with the first shot. Although, it isn't as pronounced as when I first started IDPA. I haven't had a stage where the COF had the first target further than 15 yards. So the first shot hasn't been too costly for me. I tend to grip pretty hard so that may be what counters the DA pull.

So with Cajun Guts, I assume there is a 15# hammer spring in yours. I've switched back and forth between 15# and 13# but settled on the former to be on the safe side. But that 13# is nicer.

Good luck.

[Joe L]

I have tried to convert a P-09 to SAO. The problem is that I couldn't find a good place to install a set screw stop for the trigger so that it can't get far enough forward to reset the trigger bar. Maybe with a little more time it could be done. On a 75 it's easy, just install a trigger with both set screws and limit the pretravel enough to let the sear reset but that's all. You don't have to remove the disconnector but I do on the 75.

I'm thinking drill and tap a hole in the frame for a pretravel stop and do it that way. I went back to DA/SA after mocking up a trigger pretravel limit with JB-Weld. That worked, but wasn't permanent. By the way, the trigger metal is not soft.

Joe

Edited January 4, 2016 by Joe L

[ducky0811]

I'm looking into a P09 right now as a 3 gun pistol, the only drawback I see is exactly this. I'm under the impression that the omega trigger system can't be converted to a SAO. I would think that CZC or CGW would have a solution for this if it was as simple as converting a 75b trigger. Kind of a shame since all cz's just scream SAO to me.

[ArrDave]

Won't help you with SAO but it helped me to think about the gun just having one reset, then it was just a matter of learning the DA pull

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[All-Gator]

The original question concerned using single action only in IDPA ESP: Why not simply convert the decocker-option to the safety-option and start cocked and locked? Thus avoiding the double action first shot. Am I missing something here??

[ranger]

All-Gator, you are correct. I was trying to see if anyone is starting their P09 "cocked and locked" versus starting after DA "decock". I did change my P09 from decocker to traditional safety.