MANDOWN75 Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 I HAVE A SPRINGFIELD 1911, DOES DRYFIRING IT DAMAGE IT IN ANY WAY? I HAVE ALSO HEARD THAT RELEASING THE SLIDE RELEASE ALLOWING THE SLIDE TO GO FORWARD WHILE THE WEAPON IS EMPTY CAN DAMAGE ANY TRIGGER WORK THAT HAS BEEN DONE. IS THAT TRUE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 Most will agree that dryfiring a quality centerfire handgun will not damage it, however a snap cap is cheap insurance and stops the fretting. I'm no 1911 expert, and those that are seem to be divided on dropping the slide on an empty chamber. I don't do it with my Berettas, which is cheap insurance also. (I think it's interesting that we worry so much about doing these things to our guns, but setting off countless controlled burn explosions in our pistolas doesn't bother us at all.) Also, most vets will tell you that those GI 1911s were dry fired MILLIONS of times with no ill effect, and I know the requirement for the French army adopting the Beretta specified 10,000 dry snaps, with some guns going to 20,000 with no issues. Good Luck, SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 No, it won't harm most guns, .22 rimfire being the exception. ...AND STOP YELLING!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 Yes, it is OK the dry-fire a 1911 No, don't drop the slide on an empty chamber. And, most of all...DON'T TYPE IN ALL CAPS! That will cause your gun to jam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDave Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 According to Tony Kidd (maker of the o-so-cool 10/22 trigger), dryfiring a 22 rimfire is perfectly OK in a modern, quality rifle. I think he would know, considering his trigger is more $$$ than most 22 rifles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3quartertime Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 Gee, thanks alot Flex!!! To think of all the time I spent tuning equipment!!! Next time could ya post those morsels alittle sooner. Dave, did he have an opinion on rimfire pistols? Specifially Ruger 22/45's. (Oops,,,thumb missed the 't' first time. Probably worried I would hit the 'caps lock' by mistake.) (Edited by 3quartertime at 7:27 am on Aug. 17, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradC Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 Ditto on the above posts. I dryfire all my 1911's as much as I can. As soon as one breaks, I'll let you know! 3/4time. I'm not sure which is scarier .. the fact that you hit 't' on the keyboard with your thumb or the fact that apparently your thumb is big enough to show concern about mashing caps lock whilst going for the 't' =) BradC A46143 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3quartertime Posted August 17, 2002 Share Posted August 17, 2002 Too many thumbs I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSeevers Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 My guns have been dryfired 100,000's times no problem. I try not to dry fire my .22's but do on occasion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAW45 Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 Mr. Kidd may feel it is OK to dryfire a modern rimfire, but I have seen more then one rimfire where dryfiring has caused the firing pin to peen metal in towards the chamber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted August 18, 2002 Share Posted August 18, 2002 1911 pistols, NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 Dry fire will not hurt the Ruger MK II or the 22/45 because the round cross pin that goes through the firing pin stops the tip of the firing pin from hitting the chamber. Could it ever wear enough from dry firing so that contact occurred? I suppose. I've never seen it. No idea if the old Ruger MKI had the same feature. Don't drop the slide on a 1911 w/o a round or snap cap fed from the mag. Doing so will damage trigger components. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luiz Francisco Ramos Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 1911 Dry fire can broke any tungsteen parts! This hapened with me... (yesterday) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detlef Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 tell us more! Tungsten? Only W (chemical symbol for tungsten) parts I know of are magwells and guide rods. How on earth would dry-fire break one of those???? Yeah, I've heard about breaking W guide rods, but hell, no, not during *dry*fire!!! Explain. --D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 W firing pin? (Edited by Flexmoney at 4:17 pm on Aug. 20, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detlef Posted August 20, 2002 Share Posted August 20, 2002 (desperately looking for the smiley in your post...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted August 21, 2002 Share Posted August 21, 2002 perhaps he meant titanium (Ti)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted August 21, 2002 Share Posted August 21, 2002 Gee, I'm from the old school when we used steel firing pins and they were good for many thousands of dry fire practice sessions. How about taking your race parts out of the gun B4 you dry fire, and use steel (periodic chart designator unknown) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luiz Francisco Ramos Posted August 21, 2002 Share Posted August 21, 2002 Detlef: Sorry I had confused all !! Flexmoney: Thanks, I really change the names, is Titanium... All: The part that had broked is the STRUT (I´m not sure the name is correct, but is that part that links the hammer with the mainspringhouse. My gunsmith told me to never do dryfire with titanium parts because is very great the chance to broke... like happens to me... (but I don´t care, I change the STRUT and dryfire again, because I think dryfire is good and funny!) Please, if the name is not correct, somebody tell me the correct name... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3quartertime Posted August 21, 2002 Share Posted August 21, 2002 Luiz, I think you are my new 'favorite' poster. "(but I don´t care, I change the STRUT and dryfire again, because I think dryfire is good and funny!)" LOL, now THAT is good comedy!!! And I thought benos had the market cornered on phrases that make me say,,,WHAT? No offense Luiz, sometimes us midwesterners find humor under any old rock. I really truely have no room to talk. I murder my own language on a regular basis. At least you are probably trying to get it right!!! Keep it comin' mi amigo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSeevers Posted August 21, 2002 Share Posted August 21, 2002 Hmm, I have a Ti strut and mainspring with over 70,000 rds of major and who knows how many 100,000's of dry fire rds. Seems fine. (knock on wood ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luiz Francisco Ramos Posted August 22, 2002 Share Posted August 22, 2002 3quartertime: Gracias Amigo.. Bseevers: My Strut broked with 40.000 rounds (about 2 years..2000/ month) and who knows 80.000 dryfires. I think that when dryfiring we pull the hammer down (with the finger..) diferent when shoot, where the slide pull the hammer back. With dryfiring the presure on the join (join that links the hammer <-> strut (that litlle circle where goes the strut pin..)) is greater. I remember that 6 months ago, I also have the firing pin sprint damaged, but I don´t know if it happened because of dryfiring or not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSeevers Posted August 22, 2002 Share Posted August 22, 2002 Yes I can see the pressure being "different" with a thumbcock vs gun slide recoil. I have broke just about every part on a gun you can break but would think you should get more life out of a strut. Look for any shiny spots on the broken strut to see problem. Its really not a wear part but you never know with these things Good luck. Dry firing is good for increasing scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfinney Posted August 23, 2002 Share Posted August 23, 2002 Ti is just so brittle. I'd guess that any breakage that occured during dry firing would have occured during live fire at some point as well, just "luck of the draw" it happened while dry firing. Parts do wear and break. Ti especially seems to be very fickle to shattering. But I've never seen a properly setup 1911 with steel parts suffer any kind of parts failure due specifically to dry firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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