igolfat8 Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Who has the best price on .223 55 and 60-ish grain FMJBT bullets in 1K or larger lots? Looking for something with better accuracy than the hoser Xtreme pills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I like the Hornday 55g FMJ pills personally, by the case of 6k for around $464 is what I paid last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Hornday 55g FMJ - case of 6000 Wideners - 459 shipped Midsouth - 463 shipped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reptoid Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Hornday 55g FMJ - case of 6000 Wideners - 459 shipped Midsouth - 463 shipped +1 What he said........In addition, the Hornady 55 FMJ's are the most accurate FMJ's in all of my AR's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dauntedfuture Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 +2 on the Hornady 55s. there is a huge difference in 55 FMJs, they are not all made the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnut Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 Who are you buying from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reptoid Posted March 1, 2015 Share Posted March 1, 2015 The two sources listed above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igolfat8 Posted March 1, 2015 Author Share Posted March 1, 2015 There are two 55s Hornady's on both sites in 6K quantities. Which ones are more accurate, soft point or solid point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishsticks Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 There are two 55s Hornady's on both sites in 6K quantities. Which ones are more accurate, soft point or solid point? 55 gr FMJBT w/ cannalure https://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8444&dir=278|281|1079|1085|1522 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdbyrne79 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 My gun actually prefers the soft points but because of their design they wouldn't do as well out past 200 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dauntedfuture Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 It is not actually the soft point that your rifle "likes" but rather the flat base bullet. most of the time short range BR shooters use flat base bullets for this reason, they shoot the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdbyrne79 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 I didn't mean that it was the actual point that made the difference. I meant that between the two exact bullets being asked about, I find the soft points to be more accurate. I wasn't saying that the point itself was the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glynnm45 Posted March 2, 2015 Share Posted March 2, 2015 The point actually does make the difference, at least to the BR guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdbyrne79 Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 To each their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dauntedfuture Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Its not the point that makes the bullets bore accurate, it is the more uniform base of the bullet H 55 SP vs the H 55 FMJ. Pointed, tipped or HP bullets are all drawn in the reverse manner of a FMJ. As a result you get a consistent base on the bullet. The uniform base of the bullet provides an even surface for the gas to bear against as the bullet exists the muzzle and creates less disturbance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtp Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Its not the point that makes the bullets bore accurate, it is the more uniform base of the bullet H 55 SP vs the H 55 FMJ. Pointed, tipped or HP bullets are all drawn in the reverse manner of a FMJ. As a result you get a consistent base on the bullet. The uniform base of the bullet provides an even surface for the gas to bear against as the bullet exists the muzzle and creates less disturbance. Yep - same reason I think most find pistol JHPs to be more accurate - the flat base. It's an interesting question on outlast N yards, does the point affect the accuracy at range negatively vs the inherently better 'launch' with a flat base... Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dauntedfuture Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 The pointy end of the bullet has some effects on the BC of the bullet. All things equal a more pointy bullet will have a higher BC. The shape of the base of the bullet has a great deal to do with BC as the boat tail on the bullet increases BC. So yes, there is a trade off between a flat base and BT bullet, the flat base bullet will generally shoot better and the BT bullet retains energy and velocity longer. In BR this comes into play more then almost any other discipline as you are looking for .010 improvements in group size or better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igolfat8 Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Are you saying that a flat base bullet will have lower energy and velocity at 100 yards as compared to a BT? If so, how much lower? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dauntedfuture Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I am saying that if you take two bullets of the same weight and different BCs and shoot them both at the same velocity, the one with the lower BC will retain less velocity and therefore less energy. You would have to run a BC program to find out. At 100 there is not going to be much of a difference. Years ago there was some experimentation with high BC flat based bullets. the idea was they would shoot as well as a blat base with the BC of a boat tail bullet. they did not shoot well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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