meanzbullet Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I saw on the rifle builder on JP's website that you can buy an upper and a lower for about $300.00 cheaper than you can buy a complete rifle. I don't know much about this but why would that be the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poortrader Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Make sure that it's an apples apples comparison. Which one are you looking at? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanzbullet Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 CTR-02 18" $2634.00 for the complete rifle. The upper and lower seperately are $2228.00. $1499.00 for the upper and $729.00 for the lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roons Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I believe there is an 11% excise tax on fully assembled rifles. http://www.ttb.gov/firearms/faet-faqs.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter115 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 For whatever reason it looks like you are correct. Using the rifle builder program, it is cheaper to buy as an upper and lower than it is as a complete rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poortrader Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Better reason to buy used or build. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdcguns Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I believe there is an 11% excise tax on fully assembled rifles. http://www.ttb.gov/firearms/faet-faqs.shtml The lower receiver is the "firearm". Doesn't matter if the upper is attached or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcloudy777 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I believe there is an 11% excise tax on fully assembled rifles. http://www.ttb.gov/firearms/faet-faqs.shtml The lower receiver is the "firearm". Doesn't matter if the upper is attached or not. Yes, but if the rifle as sold by JP as "complete", JP is on the hook for 11% of the whole gun. Sold just as a lower, they are only responsible for 11% of the lower. The firearms excise tax is brutal and ridicoulsly complex. I went to a half-day seminar at SHOT a few years ago put on by BATFE.... and I swear I knew more about what to do before the class than after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdcguns Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I believe there is an 11% excise tax on fully assembled rifles. http://www.ttb.gov/firearms/faet-faqs.shtml The lower receiver is the "firearm". Doesn't matter if the upper is attached or not. Yes, but if the rifle as sold by JP as "complete", JP is on the hook for 11% of the whole gun. Sold just as a lower, they are only responsible for 11% of the lower. The firearms excise tax is brutal and ridicoulsly complex. I went to a half-day seminar at SHOT a few years ago put on by BATFE.... and I swear I knew more about what to do before the class than after. I didn't think of it that way. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breacher217 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I had this exact conversation with JP. It's the excise tax. Also they said they would not sell you the upper and lower separately within 30 days of each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanzbullet Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 I never thought of excise tax. Thanks guys. 30 days, wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dauntedfuture Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 We can all thank the war of 1812 for the excise tax, it was levied to fund the war and was never repealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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