CZinSC Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Crushing Federal Primers I’ve loaded well over 10,000 rounds on my 650, all Win Small primers, mixed brass. I just switched to Federal primers and I’m getting crushed primers at a rate of about 5-7 per 500 loaded rounds. I never crushed Win primers any where near that rate. I know Fed are softer, but this is ridiculous. Seems like it’s mostly Win brass. Is this a brass issue, or a reloader issue? Here are some pics of the cases and the station #2 so you can see the alignment. I called Dillon the other day and they recommended to adjust the arm that holds the case into station #2. I did that, adjust it out a little ( looser ), but that didn’t seem to help. Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razorfish Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Similar issue on this recent thread blames the brass. He made lots of measurements. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=200872 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james5m Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I have loaded tons of Win brass using only Federal primers and have had no issues. I would suggest checking the platform alignment. since your hanging just the edge of the primer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy1629 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Could just be the photo but doesn't look like station 2 is lined up correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZinSC Posted August 26, 2014 Author Share Posted August 26, 2014 Could just be the photo but doesn't look like station 2 is lined up correctly. no, i agree. when i asked Dillon about the alignment, they said it won't ever be perfectly centered, but i'm starting to think that it is definitely more than it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy1629 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Ask them to send you the alignment tool for it, there is no charge for the tool. At least you could eliminate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD1 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Take out primers and try another brand to confirm the alignment is off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassaholic13 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Easier than the alignment tool... With the ram all the way down, as if you were going to prime, slowly bring the ram back up a little bit, to where you get off of the vertical on the index ring, and back to the angle. If you see the shell plate move when it hits the angle, there's an alignment issue. This isn't my photo, but illustrates what I'm talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGRIDER Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 +1 on Brassaholic13"s post above. Also used the free alignment tool from Dillon to get correct alignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinz Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 If none of those tips work, for difficult primers I find that chamfering the primer pocket will do the trick sometimes. It acts as a funnel, or mag chute for the primer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZinSC Posted August 27, 2014 Author Share Posted August 27, 2014 Thanks for the help everyone. I spoke to Dillon again today and they walked me through what Brassaholic says to do in post # 8. It definitely is more centered now, but i had another 6 crushed in 200 rounds. I finally changed the lot of brass i was using. 300 and no crushed. All of the crushed ones are Win. They aren't crimped, they just appear to be the tightest primer pockets around. FWIW, two phone calls to Dillon and I mentioned the alignment tool both times. They didn't offer to send the tool even after asking either time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDA Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 How sure are you that they aren't crimped? I have had crimped 9mm Win brass before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brassaholic13 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 http://www.midwayusa.com/product/804809/hornady-primer-pocket-reamer-package?cm_vc=ProductFinding If you don't have those, you should. Any of them that have crushed the primer, run the reamers into the primer pocket. If you see material being removed, either the cases are grossly out of spec, or you're trying to push primers into a crimped primer pocket. Once every blue moon I'll find a case during priming that's out of spec... But, anywhere near the number you're finding, and it's due to crimped pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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