rgo1911 Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I just tried some 180 gr. black bullets and Titegroup powder. I tried several loads chronographing to get the right power factor. I fired 30 rounds and when I went to clean the barrel I was shocked by how much of the coating was left in the bore. Am I the only one with this issue. It took me an hour with some very harsh chemicals to get my bore back to like it was prior to shooting. Velocities ran between 800 and 1000 fps. Could it be the Titegroup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosher Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 It's not the titegroup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cy Soto Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) Could it be the Titegroup? Nope. It's the bullet's coating. I had the same experience using other powders too and, 'yes', removing that coating from the rifling can be quite the challenge. FWIW, I gave up on shooting BBI bullets in favor of FMJ's and the extra cost of jacketed bullets is (IMO) money well worth the extra expense. Edited August 11, 2014 by Cy Soto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsa Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) Are these the new version with the HI-TEK coating? Is there any chance you are shaving the coating somewhere in the reloading process? I have never had a problem with them and have used Titegroup in 9mm and .40 S&W without issue. Have you tried calling Chandler and asking him for some help with your issue? The customer service at BBI is outstanding. Edited August 11, 2014 by dsa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of Ammo Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I use TG with the 9mm 125 RN and have not had a problem with the BBI bullets. It has worked great for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I've used them with Clays with no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cslafrain Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Loading with Titegroup to over 180 power factor is likely the issue here. We discussed doing another test at a 171 PF to see if the issue goes away. I suspect it will but rest assured we will solve the problem no matter what it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky #7 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) Titegroup is way too hot burning of a powder to use with coated bullets. N320, solo, and WST are the best option for coated bullets. In general coated bullets work fine with most powders, but Titegroup is just the worst powder for coated bullets because it burns so hot. Edited August 13, 2014 by lucky #7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cslafrain Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I have seen it work and work well but once you hit 1000fps on a 180 bad things happen. 9mm minor, 40 minor and 40 major up to 172pf works ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam B Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Titegroup is way too hot burning of a powder to use with coated bullets. N320, solo, and WST are very tolorant to many different powders. In general coated bullets work fine with most powders, but Titegroup is just the worst powder for coated bullets because it burns so hot. I agree 100%, titegroup runs very hot and I would never run it with a coated bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucky #7 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I use BBI's with Solo and my barrel looks like it was squeegeed clean after I shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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