moparnut88 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 Hi I have a fairly warmed over 5.25 xdm in 9mm that I shoot in production. It has about every goodie that could b dropped into it. Prp ultimate match trigger. Mostly prp parts. Got a sp guide rod insert, prp striker, ejector, and a 14lb wolf recoil spring. Problem I'm having is that in slow speed shooting it runs 100% u get it in competition and it will fail to fully reset the trigger. The striker will be caught by the sear but you will have to release the trigger fully then pull it again B4 it will fire. Only other mod is a little weld added to the trigger bar to decrease pretravel. any ideas mich appreciated thnks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braxton1 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 It's gotta have a LITTLE pre-travel in order to give the trigger bar enough room to reset under all conditions. I'd look really closely at the "little weld". If it's too big or not perfectly smooth, it could be digging into the plastic and causing an intermittent bind. We have to remember that these Production Division guns are NOT raceguns where every tolerance is reduced to minimum. They are designed to run with some clearance around parts. When we get them too close to "zero", then another tolerance creeps in and bites us on the butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moparnut88 Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 Yes that's kinda what me and my gunsmith were thinkn it's got prolly a little bit less than half of the pretravel it had without the weld. But yes the weld was smooth. I personally finished the hand fitting and finishing with a ceramic stone to almost a mirror finish. Well check the trigger bar this weekend. Thnks!! Keep any ideas coming. I wonder how well the trigger bar prp sells does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckie45 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 The first thing I though was Trigger Freeze sence it works 100% in slow fire but not in compitition. But, if you've reduced your trigger pretravel to .001", you should file that weld down to give it a little more to ensure function. I use the PRP trigger bar. My trigger bar didn't require any fitting to function as is some times the case. I'll measure my pretravel and report back to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moparnut88 Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 Yes that's Wat i thought too was trigger freeze. I didn't know Wat was the best way to correct it if it's the problem. But me and my gunsmith both think that there is sufficient clearance. And if u do the test with no striker springs it looks like it have way more than enough bc i have it setup with over travel but minimal pretravel. Thnks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMB Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I didn't know PRP was now making trigger bars?? I looked on their site and no mention of a trigger bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moparnut88 Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 Maybe it was springer? But I don't think I can use the springer trigger bar with the prp trigger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I have the PRP trigger with the standard trigger bar. No issues for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMB Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I have used triggers by Canyon Creek, Springer and Powder River. They all do good work, currently PRP is my favorite and best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckie45 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 Yes that's Wat i thought too was trigger freeze. I didn't know Wat was the best way to correct it if it's the problem. But me and my gunsmith both think that there is sufficient clearance. And if u do the test with no striker springs it looks like it have way more than enough bc i have it setup with over travel but minimal pretravel. Thnks again! When I said trigger freeze I wasn't talking about a machanical problem with the pistol. I was refering to when a shooter, in his rush to take the next shot, doesn't release the trigger enough for it to reset. If the pistol passes all function tests, you should treat this a real posibility. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckie45 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I measured my trigger travel this evening. This is with the PRP ultimate match trigger kit that I installed. Measuring from the base of the trigger with 0.000 at rest. Initial take take up before engaging sear is .099" At this point the sear begins movement. Striker fires at .183" Total travel is .233" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moparnut88 Posted July 24, 2014 Author Share Posted July 24, 2014 OK thnks! ! I'll check mine again tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moparnut88 Posted July 27, 2014 Author Share Posted July 27, 2014 OK guys I gave it a little more pretravel and that seems to have fixed it so far!! Thnks for all the help!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa25 Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) On 7/25/2014 at 6:45 AM, Chuckie45 said: I measured my trigger travel this evening. This is with the PRP ultimate match trigger kit that I installed. Measuring from the base of the trigger with 0.000 at rest. Initial take take up before engaging sear is .099" At this point the sear begins movement. Striker fires at .183" Total travel is .233" After firing, what's the distance of your reset when it catches the sear wedge again? I have the Ultimate match kit too and all works fine, and I get a crisp reset. However it would be nice to still have a bit lesser reset distance (guess I'm used to my CZ Shadow's reset), if possible and safe. Is it fine to reduce the "little wedge" further to still lessen reset distance? Or is this the max position where reducing it further would jeopardize the other parts (ie. perhaps like reduce the distance of the striker safety)? Edited December 31, 2017 by sherpa25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncman Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) I have all Springer parts in mine. I also have a factory trigger bar that has been welded in the hook area, the top reset hump area and an overtravel screw added. I wanted the trigger to be further forward than the Springer, so I tigged and remachined everything. It worked great during slow fire and target practice with very little reset and shorter travel. During full speed runs, I found that I would not relax the trigger enough to reset. Went back to the Springer that has a shorter at rest position. Shoot the gun...a lot! It will become second nature. Edited January 1, 2018 by Broncman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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