joelaw99 Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 can someone give me a load for this to run 1350-1400fps. im running a glock race gun with 13 ports...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDave Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Vhit shows 8.3 grs of 3N37 as a starting load under a 135 gr Nosler. in 40 S&W with a published velocity of 1322 fps and an oal of 1.126" Hogdon shows 10.2 gr of HS-6 for a similar velocity. Note this is a MAX load, reduce 10% to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckS Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 I have a couple of loads for 135 plated rainiers. Both make major but not as fast as what you want. The first I used was N350. 8.6 gr / WSP / OAL 1.155. The rainier bullet is fairly short (like compared to a 180) so the effective case volume is probably near what you would get with a 180 out 1.17 - 1.18 or so. This load chronoed for a PF of around 168 or so out of a Schuemann 6" Tribrid-II barrel. There was some unburnt powder scattered around the gun. The load I am currently using is ~ 8.2 gr of N340. I have gone back to an OAL near 1.170. The last batch I chroned came in around an average of 171 (1266 fps). Neither load showed signs of excess pressure but be careful, you are getting up there! The Maass site shows some loads you may be interested in. Good Luck, Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Cazes Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 Just curious as an aside.......Why go with such a light bullet? I would think that at these velocities the recoil and blast would be prohibitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelaw99 Posted January 7, 2005 Author Share Posted January 7, 2005 a light bullet with a slow burning powder makes the gas jets out of the barrel and comp porting work the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mell531 Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 Joe, If you need your bullet velocity to be 1350 to 1400, you will not be able to use a plated bullet. Plated bullets should not exceed 1350V, so the Nosler 135gr. JHP bullet is where you may want to start. As for powder, I use V V N350 8.5gr. in my Open Glock 22 with a KKM barrel and a Brian Hawley EMI comp with four top main ports and two ports on each side. Hodgdon's HS-6 or HS-7 will work as well. Federal primers work good in Glock Open guns, my AOL is 1.120 to 1.125. Like ChuckS said go to the Jeff MAASS site for more IPSC .40 loads. Joe why do you need to go 1350V with a 135gr. bullet that's 182.2 PF, you only need 165 PF for USPSA/IPSC? Tell us more about your gun or email me at Mell531@Hotmail.com. DVC, Mell Hey Joe where you goin' with that gun in your hand? Jimi Hendrix (I had to say it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelaw99 Posted January 9, 2005 Author Share Posted January 9, 2005 this is my open gun, homebuilt, metal is still in the white!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Cazes Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 poi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Keen Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Hey Joe where you goin' with that gun in your hand? Jimi Hendrix(I had to say it) I WANTED to say it but was too chicken !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelaw99 Posted January 10, 2005 Author Share Posted January 10, 2005 hey larry,,,, whats poi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mell531 Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Joe, Your gun is very interesting and good looking. When you say homebuilt job, do you mean you did all the work on this Open Glock gun, please give more info on parts and work? I was talking to gunsmith Brian Hawley about having a V6 port job done on my barrel and I see you have one on yours. The pictured gun looks like a Glock 24, great job. Okay if you have a 6.02" barrel and a comp about 1.50" which is about 7.50" long comp and barrel. Why do you need the velocity of over 1350fps? Joe if you go up to 1300fps X 135gr. bullet = 175.5PF you can use a plated bullet that cost less then jacketed. I changed from Montana Gold JHP to Rainier PHP bullets and find that the Rainier's are accurate. You also may want to try the HS-6 or HS-7 Hodgdon powder, Vihtavuori is getting to expensive and Hodgdon powder is very clean burning. Send more info about your gun, I'm saving the picture. I don't have any pictures of my new G22 Open gun but if you go to the EMI site you can see the top half of my gun, it's the one with the Docter dot : http://www.experimentalmachining.com/gallery.html . DVC, Mell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoliver Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Is that a panorama optic? How's it holding up? Thanks. [sorryforthedrift]..but it was expected due to the pic eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelaw99 Posted January 12, 2005 Author Share Posted January 12, 2005 i ordered the 24 slide from caspian and milled the top out and did the flutes on both sides to lighten it up, i think its actually a little lighter than my 22 slide now...... got the kkm barrel uncrowned at about 6 1/2" cut it to length on the lathe and threaded it..... made the comp from scratch (2 1/2 " round aluminum) , that was the easy part---only took about 3 hours....... relieved the area under the trigger guard and now get my hand a 1/4" higher to the bore axis=====less flip, recoil straighter back now....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelaw99 Posted January 12, 2005 Author Share Posted January 12, 2005 it was a copy of panarama by nc star,,,piece of junk. the elevation nut pulled right thru the base. im making a new larger nut for it and using coarse threaded cap screw to try to fix it, but i wouldnt recommend it...i only paid 70.00 new online would be ok for a low recoiling gun like 22 or maybe an ar but not an open gun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm iprod Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 Hodgdon list HS6 10.2gr at 1.125" = 1321fps (178pf) Uni Clays 7.5gr at 1.125" = 1324 (179pf) If you can make them longer you can get a little more powder in to give you the similar velocity and get more gas as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelaw99 Posted January 23, 2005 Author Share Posted January 23, 2005 i backed off the max load for hs-6 from the listed 10.2g to 9.3g and i got 1475fps out of a 6 1/4" kkm that has six ports in the barrel and a comp glad i didnt try the 10.2g,,,,im guessing about 1550-1625,,,the kkm might have stayed intact, but i think the case would have taken a big crap on me!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Meek Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 Joe, Case would have been fine with the 10.2 of HS-6. In my 5.5" Bar-Sto Barrel I had no problem with the case and I got 1377 at the 2003 VA-MD Sectional. The barrel is 12-14 years old and does not have an integral ramp. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelaw99 Posted January 23, 2005 Author Share Posted January 23, 2005 9.3g went 1475 out of my 6 1/4" barrel, im sure the extra inch had lenty to do with it..... the oal was 1.125 i think????? seems another 9/10ths would put me in very scary territory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Meek Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 My OAL is ~1.132. I would agree on the barrel length assumption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm iprod Posted January 23, 2005 Share Posted January 23, 2005 That's why it is called a MAXIMUM load. You don't have to use, if you don't have to use it. But it is there just in case. Bit like an airbag in a car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now