gordonm1 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 What will happen if you coat a cast lead bullet if it already has a wax lube in the grooves? I think I have enough bullets to use up an order of the coating but they all have wax lube already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Service Desk Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 You have to bake the coating.... So the wax will melt. Better off cleaning them up first to remove the wax lube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Think of trying to paint something with wax or oil all over it. Generally not going to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intel6 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 There have been some who have tried cleaning off their wax lubed bullets with solvents before coating and have really not had good results. The issues is you do not know how well you got off all the wax until you coat the bullets and bake them. I have had good luck with the Hi Tek coating but that is using freshly cast bullets. Neal in AZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman16 Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 Bullets that have been previously lubed CANNOT BE CLEANED ENOUGH TO USE the HI-TEK COATINGS. Another problem may also exist if the projectiles were SIZED. If the projectiles have been sized it BURNISHES the LEADS SURFACE which in turn INTERFERES WITH THE FIRST COAT OF HI-TEK ADHERING TO THE LEAD. HI-TEK that has been successfully coated/baked then(passed SMASH TEST and ACETONE WIPE TEST), CAN BE SIZED before subsequent coats are applied. THE FIRST COAT MUST BE SUCCESSFUL, the FIRST coating cannot be FIXED with subsequent coats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLucky13 Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 i have heard of people boiling the bullets and letting the lube float to the top. after it cools it can be picked out and then heated again till all of the lube is gone. we sell bullets un-lubed if you need some. just leave us a note on your order unlubed and sized, or unlubed unsized Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman16 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 People trying to use the HI-TEK process with previously LUBED OR SIZED PROJECTILES, IT WILL NOT WORK. 1) YOU CANNOT CLEAN/BOIL/ACETONE BATH OR WHATEVER enough for GOOD ADHESION and, 2) If it WAS SIZED, the surface has been burnished and the coatings (HI-TEK ONES) will not ADHERE WELL. Nuff said!!!! The other types of coating I have no experience with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLucky13 Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 (edited) i have never done it, so i cant comment, but i would at least try it myself... what have you got to lose except for some time, a couple of bullets and a bit of coating. or just shoot the lubed bullets and buy some un-lubed Edited June 28, 2014 by DonLucky13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonm1 Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 Thanks for the expert advice. I'll shoot them or sell them as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonm1 Posted June 28, 2014 Author Share Posted June 28, 2014 I guess if I was a caster I could melt them down and start over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLucky13 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 whatever advice you get on the internet that says you "can't" get them clean enough, think about this... i worked as an aircraft mechanic for 22 years, during that time i had to clean engine oil, hydraulic fluid, jet fuel, and toilette waste water out of composite panels before repairing them.. replacing sometimes is NOT an option... before somebody tells you it can't be done, it doesn't cost you anything to try. the question is, are you willing to do the work to get them clean enough to coat them... sometimes it becomes a matter of "is it worth the cost in time and materials to do so." like i mentioned in my previous post, i have heard of people boiling them, in fact one of my best customers did so and used powder coat for a bunch of bullets before he asked me if i could size them and not lube them, he said he learned about it from other people that were doing the same thing with cast bullets they got from many different vendors and it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman16 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 DonLucky13, Powder Coating projectiles and the HI-TEK coating process are TWO DIFFERENT animals. HI-TEK is fussy concerning proper adhesion, coating PREVIOUSLY SIZED PROJECTILES IS A NO-NO, as it burnishes the leads surface and the coating will not adhere well to that surface. The company owner suggests REMELTING or just shooting previously coated sized lubed projectiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLucky13 Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 like i said, WHAT HAVE YOU LOST IF YOU TRY and it doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman16 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 HI-TEK "DRY POWDER MIX" is now available in limited quantity from Gateway Bullets, a larger DRY MIX order for Donnie at Bayou Bullets has not yet been filled in Australia. The Dry Mix has the Color and Catalyst already together, you just add ACETONE and mix-tumble your projectiles-dry-bake-repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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