D.Hayden Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I have an M4 like 16" AR that I want to use for night matches only (for right now), just because of the light weight, and I won't have to worry about taking the laser/lights on and off my normal AR I'm a complete rookie working on these, what's a very painless handguard I can install to replace the normal clam-shell M4 plastic guards with? I'd like a one-piece aluminum guard that is a little better secured I'll need to attach rails to it to hold the light and laser I have a JP low-profile gas block on it now, but if I need to swap that out I can Thanks.. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) Check the Magpul options if you want one that uses the mil-spec attachments. Edit: Didn't see that you wanted aluminum. Lots of options. What do you like? Do you want two keep your mil-spec barrel nut as a requirement? Edited April 4, 2014 by alma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Looks like the Samson Evolution handguards use the mil-spec barrel nut so that might make it easier. It isn't hard to change the barrel nut either if you see another one that you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted April 4, 2014 Author Share Posted April 4, 2014 Thanks those look pretty good. I've used the JP on my normal rifle.. anything else seems foreign, but easy of installation will win here I'll have to check of this will fit everything: Samson Evolution Series 10" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) This would be the easier way: http://store.magpul.com/product/MAG418/184 Edited April 4, 2014 by alma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted April 4, 2014 Author Share Posted April 4, 2014 I'm a little worried about the amount of flex in the plastic handguards affecting the point of aim of the laser, if it's anything like the M4 guard on there now, that's why I was thinking aluminum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.roberts Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Samson Evo, Troy Alpha both use the stock nut. I had the Evo, have an Alpha now. Attachment method on the Alpha gives me way more confidence in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickB Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Your experience is the opposite of mine. I couldn't get the Troy Alpha to secure properly, so it went back. The Evo fit perfect, and also feels better to me than the Alpha. Personal preference, however... Mick Samson Evo, Troy Alpha both use the stock nut.I had the Evo, have an Alpha now. Attachment method on the Alpha gives me way more confidence in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 Thanks very much.. another dumb question.. if the guard will fit over my gas block, I can use anything in the 7" - 10" range, really the length isn't limited just because I have a 'carbine'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenDragon64 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Just keep it behind the muzzle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I have a few 16" carbines with 15" Samson Evo tubes. Really nice combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) I have a few 16" carbines with 15" Samson Evo tubes. Really nice combination.That looks perfect.. what gas block do you have on there? Edited April 6, 2014 by D.Hayden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) A Samson low profile gas block. It uses 3 opposing set screws. I have a few of these and have never had one come loose. Edited April 6, 2014 by Bryan 45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 Thanks much Just watched their install video... I was thinking this was actually going to be some work.. if it's that easy, even I can do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Dave, it really is just that easy. Make sure you install the bushings with the cut hole at the bottoms. After that, slip it on, tighten it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.Hayden Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 JP gas block won't fit under the guard.. so I'll have to shoot it this way for the next match, I don't want to change this much just before the match, then start the switch .. This way, I can wait and see if Brownell's will have a discount code by then too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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