DamonHP Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I have a LaRue OBR 7.62 that always puts the first shot low: 2" at 100, 6" at 300 yards is common. This happens when I rack the bolt with the charging handle to put the first round in, whether the rifle is hot or cold. After that shot, the rest are usually .5 MOA or better. I'm assuming the bolt stays slightly out of battery for the first shot, then does better with the following rounds. Has anyone seen this? Does anyone know what I can do to have the first shot work accurately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hax Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Sounds kind of strange that the bolt isn't going into full lock. I would recommend hitting the forward assit after charging it but I know this model doesnt have one. Have you ever taken the bolt apart? (not just the bolt from the bcg, but the extractor and everything to clean it?) how many rounds have you put through it and when did this start happening. Could your star chamber be dirty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vespid_Wasp Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Strange. Are you letting the bolt fly home or are you riding the charging handle somewhat? Does it do it anytime you go to a new magazine and charge the rifle by hand? I would suggest locking the bolt to the rear, inserting a mag, and then hitting the bolt release. That way the bolt should close with the same authority that it does during live firing. Assuming there isn't anything else going on between shot strings, like cleaning, etc. I have a few rifles that shoot drastically different with a thoroughly cleaned bore. They settle back in as they get properly fouled again. I typically leave them alone until the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlhead Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Is it the first shot from every magazine or just the first magazine of every shooting session? Have you tried sprinkling Dillo Dust in the action before inserting the first magazine? Also has anyone else duplicated the issue? I have heard of similar shooter induced problems with the first shot (not saying this is the case, but it is worth ruling out). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00bullitt Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I get similar results but on the opposite spectrum. My POI shifts about an inch for the last shot in every magazine that locks the bolt open. The change in the recoil impulse does enough to impart the change in POI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRRich Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 It may be a case of cold shooter. Easy fix, shoot a different rifle a few times first, then try your Larue. You might also let another shooter see if it happens to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 It does rather sound like you might be riding the bolt a bit but even so, it should lockup just fine and if it's not locked it shouldn't fire. If you ride the bolt in and then pull it back, does it have the same resistance as it would if you were ejecting a live round that was fed from the middle of a mag? I'm also leaning to the cold shooter, which is often a bigger cause of a miss than a cold bore. Try settling in and dry firing a couple times before chambering a round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin16 Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I usually dry fire a few times before actually going hot so you can get that muscle memory back especially if shooting different platforms(Bolt gun, etc). Definitely on last shot of every magazine I've ran , always a diffent POI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amac Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 let someone else take the first shot next time and see if they get the same results. may be quick way to narrow down the source. good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee blackman Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Are you using a plastic tipped bullet by chance? Chamber a round of the same ammo you were using when you were having the issue, then remove it from the chamber and observe the tip. Just curious if you have the same issue with FMJ ball ammo thru the gun. Maybe something to do with inconsistent deformation of the meplat. I don't think it would cause a whole 2MOA difference. But maybe the bolt isn't traveling as far back or carrying as much momentum during operation as you physically pulling the charging handle ALL the way to the rear and releasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biloxi23 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Are you using a plastic tipped bullet by chance? Chamber a round of the same ammo you were using when you were having the issue, then remove it from the chamber and observe the tip. Just curious if you have the same issue with FMJ ball ammo thru the gun. Maybe something to do with inconsistent deformation of the meplat. I don't think it would cause a whole 2MOA difference. But maybe the bolt isn't traveling as far back or carrying as much momentum during operation as you physically pulling the charging handle ALL the way to the rear and releasing. I had this issue with my DPMS LR308 when shooting winchester 168 grain Ballistic Silvertips. The first round from the mag was always 1-1 1/2 left. when shooting Gold Medal Match the first shot was dead on, as were all the rest. It did notseem tomatter if I locked thebolt back and used the bolt release or the charging handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreas Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 (edited) I'll second the cold-shooter suggestion. Get a friend to load the rifle for you (or not) while you look away, then get behind it and take your shot. If it goes "click" instead of "bang", you'll have your answer depending on whether or not the crosshairs move. Have your friend watch your eyes/face for flinching as well. Edited February 17, 2013 by Andreas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKSNIPER Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Friend of mine told me that "Every shooting problem I've seen on a range can be traced to this gun part....the nut behind the grip" Also " The toughest distance in shooting? Its the six inches between the shooters ears." Prior posters have it right.....Get warmed up first with dry firing. Then load mag with one round pull and release charging handle. FIre the one round. Reload mag with one round and repeat for ten rounds. See if you still get a difference between round # 1 and round #10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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