Extractor Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Man I love my 650.......but the lock rings..... They could do with some upgrading.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshidaex Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Do you have the 1" lock rings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extractor Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 I'm using the 'goldish' colored ones that came with the machine (machine is pretty new). They're pretty chewed up already. Changing OAL is really painful, wonderful dies and wonderful engineering that they can be taken apart so easily for cleaning.....but adjustment wise...I've found them woefull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshidaex Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Dillon sells 1" lockrings that make adjustments way easier. Pick up a pack along with the 1" wrench. It'll make your life easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extractor Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 Dillon sells 1" lockrings that make adjustments way easier. Pick up a pack along with the 1" wrench. It'll make your life easier. Is this them? Pretty sure thats what came with my machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Rod Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 If you are changing OAL that much perhaps you should look at a micro-adjustable seating die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshidaex Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Whoa. Those are the lock rings I was talking about. The older lock rings were ten times harder to adjust due to limited spacing between each ring. Do you have the accompanying wrench for those lock rings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extractor Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 The wrench I'm using is just a standard mechanics 1" wrench. A 1" socket works ok if I take the clips out of the last two dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Yeah, those Dillon rings are pretty chincy in my opinion and so is the wrench. I put the wrench on edge on the cement floor and pound it a little to make it more snug helps alot. Get a seating die that you can adjust without loosening the whole die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshidaex Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 The dillon wrench might be a bit easier to adjust the lock rings. But like Sarge mentioned, the wrench opening needs to be closed up a bit so it can grasp the lock rings a bit better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vluc Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Got rid of all the Dillon rings and went to the Hornady Sure-Loc rings. Much easier to deal with than trying to get a wrench in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extractor Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 Happier today. Last two stations now have Lyman split lock rings on them (yeehah!!! no more spanner!!!) didn't realize until someone wrote that they really tighten up (after being done up finger tight) when you use the allen key to nip them up. They really lock down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Miles Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 When i initially adjust my 650 dies I use a 1" Craftsman open end wrench. I pull the toolhead pins and turn the toolhead around to loosen a couple of them. The toolhead will slide back into the main body about 1" which is plenty to loosen and tighten the lock rings. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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