PatUSAF Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 So to start of I live in NJ and of course in our socialist state we can't have over 15 round magazines. (could be worse, I could live in California!) I want to try out the SSS magwell for my M&P 9mm Pro but it only works in conjunction with the extended Taylor Freelance base pads. But obviously the reason for extended base pads other than the weight and awesome cool look, is you increase the magazine capacity, to 5 rounds or more. So is there anyway I can run the extended pads without increasing the capacity?? Are there longer springs out there so it impedes the overall capacity? Pat AIR POWER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggieddad02 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Pat, I use a SSS ESP magwell on my M&P 40 Pro for limited. When I first got into USPSA I bought some base pads from SSS that I thought were cool. As my son told me and I later learned if you are going to use base pads then get estensions for more rounds. Long story but these are the ones I started with in order to work with the magwell. Good luck Walter http://www.speedshooterspecialties.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=0&products_id=1101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Lord Gomer Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 How do your 15 round mags keep you from inserting the "normal" 17 rounds of 9mm? Is the folower different or do they have an indentation like some other artificially limited mags? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j0n Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 (edited) How do your 15 round mags keep you from inserting the "normal" 17 rounds of 9mm? Is the folower different or do they have an indentation like some other artificially limited mags? S&W offers a 15rd 9mm mag specifically for NJ. ETA: To the OP, you could look at those rubber stick-on pads that attach to the bottom of your baseplate. Might give you enough length to be able to seat the mag. Edited March 28, 2012 by j0n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 How do your 15 round mags keep you from inserting the "normal" 17 rounds of 9mm? Is the folower different or do they have an indentation like some other artificially limited mags? S&W offers a 15rd 9mm mag specifically for NJ. ETA: To the OP, you could look at those rubber stick-on pads that attach to the bottom of your baseplate. Might give you enough length to be able to seat the mag. Won't work. The stock baseplates are too big to fit inside the magwell. Those SSS basepads from the 2nd post are the way I went too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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j0n Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 How do your 15 round mags keep you from inserting the "normal" 17 rounds of 9mm? Is the folower different or do they have an indentation like some other artificially limited mags? S&W offers a 15rd 9mm mag specifically for NJ. ETA: To the OP, you could look at those rubber stick-on pads that attach to the bottom of your baseplate. Might give you enough length to be able to seat the mag. Won't work. The stock baseplates are too big to fit inside the magwell. Those SSS basepads from the 2nd post are the way I went too. Ah, well then yea I guess SSS is the way to go then. Nevermind me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatUSAF Posted March 28, 2012 Author Share Posted March 28, 2012 How do your 15 round mags keep you from inserting the "normal" 17 rounds of 9mm? Is the folower different or do they have an indentation like some other artificially limited mags? What S&W did to solve this stupid law was a longer spring length so its the same exact magazine body that the regular mags use but (unlike Commi-fornia, who have the plastic extension) they simply run it with a longer spring so if you take a spring from a normal 17 round mag you could make the 15 rounders illegal in NJ but apparently that is a permanent fix for NJ standards.....stupid politicians! Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGMorden Posted April 3, 2012 Share Posted April 3, 2012 Will the base from a 10-round mag still fit onto a 15/17-round mag? Seems like if it would the spring/catch would still bottom out in the same spot (ie, no increase in capacity), but the "lip" of the base would be sufficiently off-set to clear the magwell. I've got some 10 and 17 round mags at home that I'll try it with if I can remember. At work now so I can't check it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatUSAF Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 Ok so here's my next brainstorming idea I attached a picture of the TF brass base pad so it looks like the extension has a hollow well (obviously where the extra rounds sit) So my question is, what if I used a two part epoxy and filled that well up and then used my stock springs for my 15 round mags? I know its like putting a Toyota sticker on a Ferrari but I think it would work, but its hard to tell cause I don't own any of the extensions but I'm contemplating buying one and seeing if it will run! What do you think? Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted April 4, 2012 Share Posted April 4, 2012 Why wouldn't you just get the SSS basepads that don't add capacity? The TF extensions are expensive and you'd never be able to sell them off later if you modify them like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatUSAF Posted April 4, 2012 Author Share Posted April 4, 2012 Funny you just mentioned that cause I was just browsing the TF website and didn't even realize the smaller base pads don't increase the capacity. I do like the limited 140mm brass extensions which would look awesome but it probably would be a big waste of $$ in the long run.....damned reasoning....always gets the best of me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malagamarksman Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 You could use the TF brass basepad and make a non permanent modification. Mill or file up a piece of aluminium or plastic to make a removeable plug to fill the hollow in the basepad. Then at some stage in the future you can remove the plug and sell the basepads on if you wanted to ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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