Stan-O Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I have these horrible 9mm 10-round magazines with the huge plastic heel on the bottom and they are starting to fall apart from being dropped on concrete (just a few times), so I'm looking for the full-metal 10-rounders and from what I've seen online the EAA/Tanfoglio magazines fit the bill. However there are two types and as far as I understand they're for different frames EAA/Tanfoglio guns. Which ones would be compatible with my Shadow? A link/part number would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Small frame EEA/Tanfoglio magazines are supposedly cross compatible with CZ-75's. Unfortunately, most of the of Tanfoglio's imported by EAA in recent years are the large frame guns. If you need replacement magazines with the plastic heels because you live in a 10 round state, check out Midway USA for CZ magazines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg80 Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I have these horrible 9mm 10-round magazines with the huge plastic heel on the bottom and they are starting to fall apart from being dropped on concrete (just a few times), so I'm looking for the full-metal 10-rounders and from what I've seen online the EAA/Tanfoglio magazines fit the bill. However there are two types and as far as I understand they're for different frames EAA/Tanfoglio guns. Which ones would be compatible with my Shadow? A link/part number would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Also, you can change out your baseplate to an alluminum one made by CZ Custom..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pivoproseem Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 I've run some small frame Tanfoglio mags in my SP-01 before with no trouble. It seems there is some difference in the shape of the mag body, but it wouldn't hurt to give one a try to see how it runs in your gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan-O Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 Small frame EEA/Tanfoglio magazines are supposedly cross compatible with CZ-75's. Unfortunately, most of the of Tanfoglio's imported by EAA in recent years are the large frame guns. If you need replacement magazines with the plastic heels because you live in a 10 round state, check out Midway USA for CZ magazines. No, thank you, I'd prefer to spend money on the regular metal tube/plastic baseplate magazines instead. I have these horrible 9mm 10-round magazines with the huge plastic heel on the bottom and they are starting to fall apart from being dropped on concrete (just a few times), so I'm looking for the full-metal 10-rounders and from what I've seen online the EAA/Tanfoglio magazines fit the bill. However there are two types and as far as I understand they're for different frames EAA/Tanfoglio guns. Which ones would be compatible with my Shadow? A link/part number would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Also, you can change out your baseplate to an alluminum one made by CZ Custom..... No, I can't -- it's more than the baseplate. You need to see the CZ 10-round 9mm magazines to understand why. I've run some small frame Tanfoglio mags in my SP-01 before with no trouble. It seems there is some difference in the shape of the mag body, but it wouldn't hurt to give one a try to see how it runs in your gun. There're two types of EAA magazines sold now, one for steel frame guns and the other type for the polymer frame guns. Any idea which one might work in CZ? Local store doesn't have any, they'd have to be special-ordered, but I need to know which ones I need first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunguru Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Metal frame work's fine. I Have a Witness Classic, and in my last match, a friend broke on of his mags, so I give him one of mine for his CZ SP01, and it work perfectly. BUT, the reverse is not so true, I tried his mags in my gun, no feeding problem, but the slide refuse to lock open on last round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walküre Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 Metal frame work's fine. Only the small-frame, of which most current/new Tanfos in the US are not. The magazines for large-frame Tanfos - which are the dominant ones that are usually seen, like the Gold Teams and Limiteds - are not dimensionally similar to any CZ magazines. I'm not sure if EAA is currently importing any small-frame Tanfos. I know when people have asked about small-frame Stocks recently, they've said EAA replied saying they will only import the large-frame versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pivoproseem Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 mags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan-O Posted March 23, 2012 Author Share Posted March 23, 2012 mags Thanks! So this one is confirmed to work in CZ? I can just get the EAA 101920 mags locally and they should work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pivoproseem Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 (edited) I would certainly try one before buying several.....mine look like this one, but are older with a black follower. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/557564/eaa-magazine-witness-9mm-luger-10-round-steel-blue Edited March 23, 2012 by pivoproseem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skydiver Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 If you shoot indoors, those plastic bases on the Tanfoglio produced mags (i.e. red followers) also crack when dropped on concrete. What is strange with those magazines is I think they changed the formulation on the plastic. The older magazines before 2005-2006 with those plastic bases are okay, but after that point "they don't make them like they used to.", I've not dropped any MecGar produced mags (with the black followers) on concrete yet so I don't know if the MecGar once are tougher or not. Let us know what you find. If you get tired of the bases cracking, you can swap them with Henning's aluminum base pads: http://henningshootsguns.com/shop/magpads.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pivoproseem Posted March 23, 2012 Share Posted March 23, 2012 actually, I've realized my old 10 round tanfo mags aren't mec-gars.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan-O Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 I would certainly try one before buying several.....mine look like this one, but are older with a black follower. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/557564/eaa-magazine-witness-9mm-luger-10-round-steel-blue I've looked at these and they also have that huge plastic heel, so they would be exactly the same as the CZ ones. If you get tired of the bases cracking, you can swap them with Henning's aluminum base pads: http://henningshootsguns.com/shop/magpads.html Thanks, but I can't -- the problem is not the base. On the CZ 10-rounders the lower third of the magazine is plastic. You don't remove the baseplate, you remove the whole plastic heel. I'll try to post the photo tomorrow. The problem is that when being dropped at an angle the metal part of it (plus whatever rounds left) force the bottom part out. Again, it will be clearer when I post photos. Are there any CZ shooters from CA around here? They have similar magazine restrictions, I wonder what do they use? I practice almost exclusively indoors, so it's a huge deal for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan-O Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 I'm attaching the photo of the 10-rounders I have. The problem is that when they're free-dropped, there's a lot of stress on the lip of the plastic heel and it comes out of the metal part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Hepworth Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 the CZ mags with plastic base plate ( 10rds) are a little too short to work great in small frame tanfoglio's. Small frame tanfo mags work great in CZ 9mm or small frame...but stick out a little at the bottom. The downside is that after a while,..if you really slam the tanfo mags into the CZ, you may crack the mags at the top rear where it would contact the bottom of the sear cage. Happened to one of my mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan-O Posted March 24, 2012 Author Share Posted March 24, 2012 Mo -- where did you get your Tanfo mags, how much were they and is there a product ID I could use to order them at my local shop? Any help on identifying those Tanfo mags which do work in CZ will be hugely appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mo Hepworth Posted March 24, 2012 Share Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) I got some from Henning I believe....and some from Freedom ventures in Canada. SMALL frame 9mm for the stock, stock2, stock3...etc. I have no idea for product #. I would order off the internet if your dealer can not get them....you could try over seas if that doesn't work out. Edited March 24, 2012 by Mo Hepworth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesLovesJammie Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 These are exactly what you need. They are an all aluminum replacement for the plastic part of the CZ factory 10 round magazine. CZ Custom makes them in the normal length and an extended length. Neither increase capacity, but the longer ones may be easier to grab out of a mag pouch. http://czcustom.com/cz-aluminum-base_pad-10_round_standard.aspx http://czcustom.com/cz-aluminum-base_pad-10_round_long_length.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan-O Posted March 26, 2012 Author Share Posted March 26, 2012 These are exactly what you need. They are an all aluminum replacement for the plastic part of the CZ factory 10 round magazine. CZ Custom makes them in the normal length and an extended length. Neither increase capacity, but the longer ones may be easier to grab out of a mag pouch. http://czcustom.com/cz-aluminum-base_pad-10_round_standard.aspx http://czcustom.com/cz-aluminum-base_pad-10_round_long_length.aspx Thanks, dunno how I missed them! However, I'm not too keen on them for two reasons: 1. Price -- I should be able to get Tanfo/EAA mags for about as much 2. It's still a two-piece design. I wouldn't have an issue of the plastic part breaking free of the metal portion of the magazine, but eventually I'm afraid these aluminum parts will wreck the magazine upper. If I can't find the Tanfo/EAA magazines, I'll probably go this route tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunguru Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 http://www.brantshootingsports.com/products/110193 TANFOGLIO 9mm Chrome magazine $49.99SKU: 1101939mm Chrome Magazine with metal base pad. Will fit the CZ SP-01 shadow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan-O Posted March 27, 2012 Author Share Posted March 27, 2012 http://www.brantshootingsports.com/products/110193 TANFOGLIO 9mm Chrome magazine $49.99SKU: 1101939mm Chrome Magazine with metal base pad. Will fit the CZ SP-01 shadow Thanks! Do these stick out a bit from the bottom like the rest of Tanfo/EAA magazines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunguru Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Sorry, but as english is not my first language, I'm not sure to really understand your question. Or maybe it's just this flu slowing down my brain... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan-O Posted March 28, 2012 Author Share Posted March 28, 2012 So I'm trying to get the product SKU off EAA for the CZ-compatible magazines and of course when I said it's for the small-frame old EAA gun they've asked me for the serial number. What can I tell them (year of production, etc) to clarify what type of magazines I need without having the actual Tanfo/EAA gun with the serial number? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmbaccolyte Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 (edited) Stan-O, I'm not certain that this is what you want, but in your pm you seemed to want negative (as in it won't fit the CZ) info too. So here goes, my fairly new Tanfo large steel frame Witness Match in .40 S&W uses SKU 101945 mags (I'm running 10mm mags for the long OAL (1.25") and its ability to attain high velocity with lower chamber pressures than the .40 S&W but still use cheap brass). The mags say K10 and the receipt from EAA also says EA10M2005 in addition to the SKU code number. Hope this helps. Oh, there were some magazine/pistol design changes in 2005. Edited March 29, 2012 by jmbaccolyte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan-O Posted March 30, 2012 Author Share Posted March 30, 2012 Stan-O, I'm not certain that this is what you want, but in your pm you seemed to want negative (as in it won't fit the CZ) info too. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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