Blank Zero Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Hello all, This is the first time I start loading with molley and clays, I have couple of questions that I hope I can get answers here. Any help is greatly appreciate Bullet: Bear Creek 230 LRN molley Primer: LP winchester Brass: Mixed stamps Powder: Hodgdon Clays O.A.L: 1.240 My result from chrono are below: 3.2 gr 3.4 gr 3.6 gr 3.8 gr 4.0 gr 646.9 701.0 716.9 763.9 752.3 660.4 709.0 709.3 769.2 785.4 691.9 680.0 735.8 773.7 805.6 648.6 680.9 722.2 754.2 781.5 638.5 694.1 723.0 754.0 783.0 151pf 159pf 165pf 175pf 179pf I want to keep it around 170pf, so I guess my next test load would be 3.7 gr of Clays. Below are some of my question: 1) Hodgdon website recommend O.A.L of 1.200, however, from what I know, it is recommend to make the bullet as long as possible that fit the chamber. My Kimber goldmatch can be fit at 1.260 (this is my load for Delta Precision FMJ 230Gr), but for this load I made it 1.240. Should I follow Hodgdon? Or keep my orignal of 1.260 or 1.240? 2) At 3.6 grain, I am at 165pf, which way is recommend? Increase powder to 3.7gr? Or shorten the O.A.L? 3.6gr recoil is just superb compare to 3.8 and 4.0gr. Thank you so much in advance for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueOvalBruin Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Forget about the OAL number. For those bear creek 230gr RN bullets set the bullet deep enough so the distal edge of the "shoulder" is just above the case mouth. Any longer than that could cause feed problems, and shorter than that is unnecessary. Then adjust your powder charge to acheive the desired PF. I don't remember exactly what the OAL is but it's definitely shorter than 1.250". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Zero Posted September 12, 2011 Author Share Posted September 12, 2011 Thank you BlueOvalBruin, What do you mean by "Distal edge of the "Shoulder"? is it the groove? Or do you mean where the bullet start to curve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 that would be this line here. you want the brass about 1mm below it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueOvalBruin Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Wanderer’s picture is exactly what I meant. Although my recommendation would be to put that shoulder just barely above the case mouth, maybe .010”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigamortis Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 I use Bayou Bullets 230gr RN with 3.7gr Clays @ 1.240" for 170pf. My load data is pretty much identical to yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Zero Posted September 13, 2011 Author Share Posted September 13, 2011 Thank you guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_Kerr Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 Ditto for me: I use a nominal 3.8 gr and worry very little about matching the books OAL. 1.236 to 1.240 +- is about right. I use "precision bullets" and the loading has stayed about the same despite a change in mold configuration a few years back. regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MassiveGorillaz Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Hey guys, Would the shorter OAL cause leading? I've been loading 1.200" OAL 230 grain LRN precision bullets (black bullets) with 4.0 grns clays and I have been getting some lead deposits. I pulled a couple of bullets and the black coating is in tact and not being stripped by the seating process. My 1911 can handle a 1.26 OAL. Any ideas? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan N Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 Heres 8 shot averages through my Spartan: 230 Bear Creek 3.5 Clays, 1.220 OAL 730fps(168 PF) 230 Bear Creek 3.6 Clays, 1.220 OAL 752fps(172 PF) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tul9033 Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 (edited) 230gr J&K Hard Cast RN - 1.25 OAL - 3.9gr Clays's - STI Spartan ~180 PF very accurate though My next batch with be in the 3.6 to 3.7 range. Edited October 26, 2011 by Tul9033 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny1gun Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 My gun feeds fine with the OAL at 1.255.Is it better for feeding to have the OAL at 1.240? I use 4.0 clays and Bayou Bullets. Next batch will be 3.7 clays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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