WayneBullock Posted June 5, 2001 Share Posted June 5, 2001 See what youall think of this stage: 4 IPSC targets... T1 is 15yds from shooting box, offset to the left. T2 is 25yds, just off centerline on left. T3 is 25 yds, just off centerline to right. T4 is 15yds offset to right. Timed Fire / Best 6 paper / Time per string: 4.5 secs. On audible start signal: String 1: Engage T1 with six rounds weak hand. String 2: Engage T2 with six rounds freestyle. String 3: Engage T3 with 3 rounds, reload, 3 rounds. String 4: Engage T4 with 6 rounds strong hand. On a stage such as described above, what strategies would youall suggest. I shot this last weekend at Area4 and there were some pretty interesting scores from all levels of shooters. Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detlef Posted June 5, 2001 Share Posted June 5, 2001 umpf...Wayne, there was no leeway for any *strategy*, all was dictated! Really the only thing to decide was whether you'd even attempt the reload on string 3 (3 A's are better than 6 D's...), with a time limit of 4.5 an easy decision for me. And then, of course, you need to know how many hits you can get on the other strings in 4.5 sec because you don't want to fire shots without hitting. For me that was 5 shots weak hand and 6 shots free style and strong hand. All that said, I was terribly afraid of the stage, trembled like a dying tree in the wind and completely screwed up the stage. In spite of running a mile 90 min before starting, as TT suggested... But *strategy*? There wasn't any... --Detlef Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted June 5, 2001 Share Posted June 5, 2001 If you shoot all A's, but only get off five shoots, that is 25 points. If you get off all six shoots, but manage to only hit C's then that is (major) 24 points. Chances are that you could get a couple of A's in there too, right? So, wouldn't you want to go for getting all the shots you can into at least the C zone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted June 5, 2001 Share Posted June 5, 2001 Hit A's, If you can't make the times, just go for A's and let the points stack up. You don't want to bite any penalties trying to get that 6th shot off. Actually it sounds like a good practice drill. Don't be intimidated, too many shooters think they have to get all 6 off inside the time, but the time was set to make M's and GM's push the limit of making hits inside the time (if they make the time too lax all the A's, M's, and GM's would have the same score making it a non-stage). Just shoot what you can at a comfortable pace. This is where practice with a timer helps. You want to know before you even load and make ready for a stage like that, how fast you can shoot 6 shots at that distance (strong and weak hand too), or how many you can put in the A zone in that time. Then you will have the confidence to just go and shoot the stage to the best of your ability. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted June 5, 2001 Share Posted June 5, 2001 Something similiar is CM99-14 Hoser Heaven. It's easy to shoot all 6 shots freestyle, but strong hand and weak hand, it's best to go after T1, T3, and T5 with good A hits and if you have time go back for the other ones. (Edited by Scooter at 1:59 pm on June 5, 2001) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted June 5, 2001 Share Posted June 5, 2001 Partial People Eaters (I don't know the classifier #) is similar too, and tougher times! Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted June 5, 2001 Share Posted June 5, 2001 It's CM99-40. At least you don't have no shoots. I hate shooting Hoser Heaven, yet it keeps popping up at the local matches. Always manage to get a couple of no shoots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted June 5, 2001 Share Posted June 5, 2001 Hoser Heaven... GRRRRRRR!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted June 6, 2001 Share Posted June 6, 2001 Yeah it's kinda like that other pain in the ass stage "Off Balance Blast" I've chopped alot of wood on that one. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41mag Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Hoser Heaven... GRRRRRRR!! You can say that again! I'm a new shooter (unclassified) and my local Match Director (I won't mention no names ) saw fit to introduce me to this course recently ( It must be pretty popular!). I feel very fortunate to have scored in the black (positive), several shooters were running negative scores until the scoring rules returned there score to zero. Reading this post has been helpful. The strategy that Scooter offers is something to think about. That must be (might be) why they score it at the end of each string, so a shooter don't try to stack all his shots on the easy targets. Any body know where a 27pf (my humble score for this stage) would place a guy for classification? Just curious. I shoot revolver if that makes a difference. Old but good info, thanks. 41mag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidball Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 (edited) Isn't this Baseball Standards CM 03-14? Edited May 10, 2007 by davidball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshF Posted May 10, 2007 Share Posted May 10, 2007 Isn't this Baseball Standards CM 03-14? That just doesn't look like fun If you shoot production you ALWAYS shoot for points. At last that's what the faster guys tell me I stray sometimes and find myself going for speed... As the wise Kung Fu master says " You lack discipline! " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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