Power Pistol & 124 MG HP

[Kevin G.]

I loaded some 124gr MG hp over 6.2 grains of Power Pistol just to see what they felt like. To my surprise they were making 155pf out of my M&P Pro and showed absolutely no signs of pressure. The recoil was surprisingly manageable.

Before i start playing with this powder too much I wanted to see if anyone knew of issues with loading it down closer to 130-135 pf using MGs or even a cast bullet? Does it get too inconsistent at lower velocities?

Bring on the wisdom because there has to be a reason it's not being done. This load felt great compared to the 135 pf TiteGroup load I was also shooting that day.

[DWFAN]

Most people will think the Titegroup load is softer.

PP should work down to those velocities.

according to the spreadsheet I have 5.2 SHOULD be around 130pf in most guns, up to 5.8 at 138pf..

Standard disclaimer, work up(down) over chrono watching for issues and be careful.

[Yardbird]

Hornady lists a max load of 5.7gr for 1100fps. They also list it all the way down to 4.3gr for 900fps.

You most likely wouldn't get pressure signs from PP till you were up in the 180+ PF range.

[GrumpyOne]

Ive been told (or read somewhere) that Power Pistol doesn't like to be loaded down too much. But, I say try it and see. I have used many lbs of PP in 40,38spl/357, and 45ACP full power loads and love the stuff cause it meters so well and is very consistent.

[Darrell]

My M&P pro preferred 5.4 gr of PP was 135 PF with MG 124 JHP, My G34 liked 5.6. My most accurate was 6.0 at 147PF

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 A.S. 4.60 W/W W/W 1.120 1040 60 15 129.0 2.02 5 shot group 20yds

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 A.S. 4.80 W/W W/W 1.120 1061 57 15 131.6 2.67 5 shot group 20yds

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 A.S. 5.00 W/W W/W 1.120 1084 86 24 134.4 3.79 5 shot group 20yds

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 A.S. 4.20 W/W W/W 1.120 936 51 15 116.1 4.90 15 shot gp R.R. 25 yds

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 P.P. 5.40 W/W W/W 1.120 1097 38 13 136.0 1.14 12/29/2008

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 P.P. 5.40 W/W W/W 1.120 1103 52 16 136.8 2.05 3-5shot avg 25 yds bench

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 P.P. 5.20 W/W W/W 1.120 1070 44 13 132.7 2.23 3-5shot avg 25 yds bench

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 P.P. 5.40 W/W W/W 1.120 1047 14 5 129.8 2.29 5 shot group 20yds

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 P.P. 5.60 W/W W/W 1.120 1138 41 12 141.1 2.34 3-5shot avg 25 yds bench

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 P.P. 5.20 W/W W/W 1.120 1070 132.7 2.54 12/31/2008

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 P.P. 5.80 W/W W/W 1.120 1159 42 12 143.7 2.93 3-5shot avg 25 yds bench

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 P.P. 5.00 W/W W/W 1.120 1033 66 18 128.1 3.33 3-5shot avg 25 yds bench

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 P.P. 6.00 W/W W/W 1.120 1186 68 17 147.1 3.81 3-5shot avg 25 yds bench

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 P.P. 5.60 W/W Mix 1.100 1117 81 23 138.5

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 T.G. 3.80 W/W W/W 1.120 1029 32 9 127.6 3.13 15 shot gp R.R. 25 yds

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 T.G. 4.40 W/W W/W 1.120 1134 92 23 140.6 3.20 15 shot gp R.R. 25 yds

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 T.G. 4.20 W/W W/W 1.120 1088 61 15 134.9 3.40 15 shot gp R.R. 25 yds

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 T.G. 3.60 W/W W/W 1.120 978 38 11 121.3 3.59 15 shot gp R.R. 25 yds

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 T.G. 4.00 W/W W/W 1.120 1055 43 11 130.8 4.30 15 shot gp R.R. 25 yds

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 T.G. 4.20 W/W W/W 1.120 1141 64 20 141.5 12/29/2008

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 WST 3.60 W/W Mix 1.075 947 43 14 117.4

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 WST 3.80 W/W Mix 1.075 965 51 18 119.7

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 WST 4.00 W/W Mix 1.075 998 77 22 123.8

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 WST 4.20 W/W Mix 1.075 1015 57 17 125.9

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 WST 4.40 W/W Mix 1.075 1048 59 16 130.0

[Kevin G.]

My M&P pro preferred 5.4 gr of PP was 135 PF with MG 124 JHP, My G34 liked 5.6. My most accurate was 6.0 at 147PF

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 A.S. 4.60 W/W W/W 1.120 1040 60 15 129.0 2.02 5 shot group 20yds

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 A.S. 4.80 W/W W/W 1.120 1061 57 15 131.6 2.67 5 shot group 20yds

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 A.S. 5.00 W/W W/W 1.120 1084 86 24 134.4 3.79 5 shot group 20yds

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 A.S. 4.20 W/W W/W 1.120 936 51 15 116.1 4.90 15 shot gp R.R. 25 yds

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 P.P. 5.40 W/W W/W 1.120 1097 38 13 136.0 1.14 12/29/2008

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 P.P. 5.40 W/W W/W 1.120 1103 52 16 136.8 2.05 3-5shot avg 25 yds bench

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 P.P. 5.20 W/W W/W 1.120 1070 44 13 132.7 2.23 3-5shot avg 25 yds bench

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 P.P. 5.40 W/W W/W 1.120 1047 14 5 129.8 2.29 5 shot group 20yds

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 P.P. 5.60 W/W W/W 1.120 1138 41 12 141.1 2.34 3-5shot avg 25 yds bench

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 P.P. 5.20 W/W W/W 1.120 1070 132.7 2.54 12/31/2008

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 P.P. 5.80 W/W W/W 1.120 1159 42 12 143.7 2.93 3-5shot avg 25 yds bench

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 P.P. 5.00 W/W W/W 1.120 1033 66 18 128.1 3.33 3-5shot avg 25 yds bench

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 P.P. 6.00 W/W W/W 1.120 1186 68 17 147.1 3.81 3-5shot avg 25 yds bench

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 P.P. 5.60 W/W Mix 1.100 1117 81 23 138.5

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 T.G. 3.80 W/W W/W 1.120 1029 32 9 127.6 3.13 15 shot gp R.R. 25 yds

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 T.G. 4.40 W/W W/W 1.120 1134 92 23 140.6 3.20 15 shot gp R.R. 25 yds

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 T.G. 4.20 W/W W/W 1.120 1088 61 15 134.9 3.40 15 shot gp R.R. 25 yds

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 T.G. 3.60 W/W W/W 1.120 978 38 11 121.3 3.59 15 shot gp R.R. 25 yds

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 T.G. 4.00 W/W W/W 1.120 1055 43 11 130.8 4.30 15 shot gp R.R. 25 yds

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 T.G. 4.20 W/W W/W 1.120 1141 64 20 141.5 12/29/2008

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 WST 3.60 W/W Mix 1.075 947 43 14 117.4

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 WST 3.80 W/W Mix 1.075 965 51 18 119.7

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 WST 4.00 W/W Mix 1.075 998 77 22 123.8

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 WST 4.20 W/W Mix 1.075 1015 57 17 125.9

M&P Pro M. G. JHP 124 WST 4.40 W/W Mix 1.075 1048 59 16 130.0

Talk about sharing data! Thanks Darrell. You covered all 4 powders I am trying with this bullet, plus one I'm not. I assume A.S. is Silhouette.

[DWFAN]

AS = American Select I believe.. Send Darrell an pm/email.. I bet he'll send you the whole spreadsheet. Its AMAZING! thanks again Darrell.

[GForceLizard]

I have loaded 124gr Montana Gold JHP with 5.3gr Power Pistol 1.125 OAL and get 132PF. There are better powders for competition. I like Solo 1000 for 9mm. You might want to try Titegroup, it's very popular.