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Stages are up on FB by the way. Look like a good set of fun, typical Multigun Nats (which is a compliment) stages, plus a few classifier type stages. I like it!
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I would like to extend a sincerest thanks to all the match staff and the sponsors for putting on another fantastic match. I had a great time in 2016, and 2017 was even better! The weather was definitely more cooperative as well. Once again, it was a very well-run and thought out match. The Loganbill's are great stage designers and Range Masters, and I will do my best to shoot this match as much as possible. There were some very generous prizes on the table as well, so I will be sure to reach out to the sponsors and thank them all individually.
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Man, I can't wait. Praying for continued good outlook on the weather. Warmer sunny days always make the game more fun.
I will be bringing 500 rounds of Atlanta Arms 9mm Major that need to go to a home that can use them, FYI. If you shoot 9 Major, I will be cutting a serious deal because I have no use for them after selling my open gun.
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Thank you all so much. Muncie, that thread was exactly what I was looking for. Those pictures are what my rounds look like, and as long as everyone else says there's no issues, I'm good to go!
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I've been reloading .40 on a 650 for years using Dillon Dies, and I finally got it set up to shoot 9mm. I threw Dillon dies in there so my setup is the same. I have loaded about 700 rounds of 9mm so far (it fires fine), but I noticed that the resizing die looks to be overcrimping almost. The case becomes straight narrow for the top 2/3 and bulges out at the bottom. Once the case neck is flared, the bullet seated and crimped, the top 1/3 has bulged out again to accommodate the bullet, so the new round is essentially hourglass shaped. The difference in diameter between the middle of the case where it's narrowest and the top and bottom of the case is about .009. I read that .005 is to be expected, but with this at .009, it is very obvious at first glance that the case is not completely straight-walled like a new factory round. I have fired this ammo with relatively few issues, and I think the few issues aren't necessarily related to the case being warped (I've had a few that don't case-gauge and will therefore jam the gun).
The de-priming and resizing die is set up just like the instructions dictate from Dillon.
Anybody have any ideas? I will try to post a picture later today.
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Will there be a match book available, or at least stages available by Thursday? I like to print them out if there's no printed matchbooks to take my notes on.
Looking forward to it!
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Honestly <100 just use a red dot. Even though you have a +8 on there, a red dot will be fine, unless your club is doing small 3-4 MOA targets at 100yards. Otherwise, go with the Strike Eagle. I used a strike eagle on a $3000 JP all last season and it served me well. I placed in the top at some good matches, so the optic did not hold me back. The extra 2x over a 1-4x is nice in case you do ever decide to go shoot a bigger match.
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I would say this is an important drill to work, not because saving .05 seconds on your draw will win a match (though it might), but consistent presentation, and most important, SOLID and consistent grip on the gun is extremely important. The draw is your typically the first and only time to get it right.
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20 hours ago, FtSillMulti-Gun said:
The event is getting better and better by the day and this will be a first class event.
We believe you can have a Major match that doesn't take two days, doesn't cost almost $300 and doesn't have over 250 shooters, we want to have a match that is appreciated and respected by the competitors.
We will be having a one day match with 5 stages.
These are big stages on wide open Ft. Sill Ranges with a good amount of "shooting and moving". Anything from close up paper to 500 yard automated knock down steel.
The main match day is Saturday the 17th but we will have some openings for shooters on Friday the 16th as well walkthroughs on Friday.
We are able to keep the entry fee low because we don't have an overhead of equipment to buy, Ft. Sill is set up with great range space and plenty of equipment that we are setting up especially for a 3 gun match.
This will be a full day of VIP treatment at a great price, starting with a catered sit down breakfast at the range, a full 6-8 hour day of shooting and the final award ceremony / door prize drawings to be held at the Jack Daniels Club and restaurant down the street from the ranges. There will be food vendors at the ranges for lunch sales as well as Army equipment displays.
We will be posting information on Hotel deals in the area in the next week.
Thanks again.
Thanks for the effort into the response. I would certainly like to make it if possible, if anything, just to support more military competition. I think that will be an easy sell to get a permissive TDY.
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I am also interested to know if this will be a one day match or not, and how many stages can we expect. I love the low entry fee, but at an 8 hour drive, I need a solid day or two of shooting.
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What benefit is it to the match staff to put effort into making a very small division "enticing"? Sure, it helps those 5 people that really want to shoot it, but it doesn't affect how the match fills up, sponsorships (most likely), etc.
So, I see no reason why the match staff should put any effort into trying to recruit more of one particular division.
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Atlanta Arms Long Major match grade is roughly the same. I will be shooting that this match. This will be the only match I spend that kind of money on ammo, but I want to take my inability to make 100% reliable ammo out of it. I've had two squibs in the last 2 months!!!!
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Looking forward to this weekend! Looks like some interesting stages.
But I don't know how in the world "Bombs Away" was approved by NROI. I see this being a HUGE headache. The note at the bottom states, the RO's will have to adjust the ramp so that slower shooters can get to the port?!? That means I'm at the mercy of the RO to set it to the speed I need...
I would seriously encourage the range master to re-evalute that part of the stage briefing. It's essentially the same as slowing a swinger for certain shooters because they ask for it.
From my limited knowledge, here's the first thing I was able to find:
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4.5.2 The competitor may request that Match Officials take corrective actions to ensure consistency in respect of the range surface, the
presentation of targets and/or any other matter. The Range Master will have final authority concerning all such requests.
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That was a pleasant signup experience! Looking forward to my first handgun nationals.
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I'm shooting on Thursday with RO's, would love to know what time I need to be there! Also if anyone is looking to split a room for Wed only, I'm probably going to drive in from Omaha Wed night.
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It's been 100 points since before Practiscore, iPads and even iPhones even existed. It's based on 100 percent which makes it easier to understand the numbers. Ft Benning experimented with different values (and I'm sure other) around 2006. Didn't really fix much.
Chuck, it maybe easier to understand, but it doesn't make much sense to have the same number of points for stage you shoot in 3 seconds and for stage you shoot in 80 seconds. You shot 3sec stage for a 0.5 second slower and you already lost 25 points for the match.
Similarly here, Daniel lost about 40 seconds on a 80 seconds stage and it cost him 50 points. So, over 11 other stages he only had to gain about 5 seconds per stage (most of them were 20..30 second stages) to recover from a loss on a stage 8.
All in all, Daniel did a great job there, but it feels like stage 8 was rated rather low for its difficulty.
It's not "only" gain 5 seconds per other stages. On a 30 second stage, 5 seconds is a LOT. The difficulty to gain that time up is immense, and somehow he did that and then some. That's why stages are given equal points, because 5 seconds on a fast discipline could be 20%, but it could be as little as 6-7% on a long range stage.
Not to mention, much less decision making and stage planning goes into long range stages, so since he lost one stage by 40-50%, how should that negate the fact that he won the most stages by far and shot the rest the most consistently?
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Of course it is their match, but I tend to think it is 100 points, because that is the default points value in PractiScore.
But on equal importance of things, it seem like they have achieved the opposite. The long shots became less important in the overall match.
Not at all. Just because one discipline takes longer to shoot, does that make it that much more important than some of the faster disciplines? The round count on that stage was also a bit lower than some of the others, so you could argue the longer shots were worth more anyways.
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Registration is open! I got my slot!
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Any info on meals at the range, vendors with extra gear/ammo for sale, things like that?
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Any update on the registration? I heard that it was open to those who have shot it before, well I'd be a new shooter so I haven't received any emails, the website says nothing about registration being open yet, and there's nothing on here!
I need to shoot this match. It's probably the only match the entire year that falls on an off-weekend for me and is within the distance required to not take leave.
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Please don't take my gripes as me bitching too much. As I stated, it's a very well valued match, and the fact that it was so smooth, challenging, and fun makes up wonders for any prize table. I am used to shooting the Pro-Am, Regionals, Ft. Benning, etc. where I have been a bit spoiled. I really appreciate all of the sponsors that come on board and donate their products in the hopes we will support them. For those who do donate, know that we DO notice and do appreciate it. I personally do my best to support companies that support the sport over ones that don't.
As for how to make it better, I have no experience with running a match, so I couldn't help you a lot there. I do know there are matches out there that do it well, so the knowledge on how to get massive sponsor support is out there. There are a couple of things that I personally enjoy at matches: 1) Have a raffle for a nice custom gun, either a one-off custom gun that a sponsor built for the match, or money goes to charity. 2) Throw a few random prizes in a number of the welcome bags! 3) Stage guns, or side stages where sponsors can demo gear. JP and AR15.com were nice enough to let people shoot some of their stuff on the sight-in range, that's a great way to sell stuff.
I would try and shy away from discount codes being used as large prizes, while they may have a large "cash discount value," the intrinsic value is typically far less.
All that said, keep it in perspective. 95% of people will choose to shoot a match for it's fun and fair factor, not for the prize table. I would say that at a 3-gun match, if I place in the top 10 in a division of 150, I would hope to walk away with a prize valued at atleast match entry fee and ammo cost.
I hope it will be easier to gain some sponsor support next year with all of the positive feedback this match is generating!
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That is the best-valued match I've ever shot! Ten stages with 50-100 seconds each for the average shooter, done in two days fairly easily?!?! That's amazing! Those knock-over targets were a godsend. The quick turn-around between the last shooter and the awards was unheard of and is always appreciated. The stages were fun and well-designed, everything was close (on the range at least). I will say the prize table was nothing to brag about considering how many people shot the match, but then again, we don't shoot for the prize table and this wasn't an expensive match relatively speaking. Thank you to all the sponsors, it certainly looked like everyone walked away with several things, and I fortunately picked up a nice ADM mount for my new JP LRP-07.
Next year just make sure it's not miserably cold please! Us southern boys don't deal with the wind too well.
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I just broke the elastic slip ring on the piston of my 1301. I'm leaving early Friday for the match so there's no chance of me getting one shipped here in time. Does anyone have access to one? My last resort will be to ask to borrow a shotgun, or purchase one, but I'd obviously rather not.
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I was on the wait list, got a slot, and then paid via CC over the phone. I never received any confirmation, and practiscore is showing as unpaid. Do I need to worry?
2017 USPSA Multigun Nationals
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Is anyone going from the airport area to the range around 9-10am tomorrow to the range? I am arriving several hours before the rest of my team and can't check in to the hotel.