SinistralRifleman
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Max is 150, last year we had ~70....if we hit 100 this year we'll be happy.
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We bought all the cans Trooper Class shooters can use to cache their ammo at the stat house in, one can per shooter.
Internal dimensions are 9-1/2" Deep x 5-1/2" wide x 10-7/8" Long
1,000 rounds of 9mm only fills it 1/3 of the way...I plan on having 1,000 9mm and 1,000 .223 in mine:
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If you want to shoot Trooper Class with a man-pack on, your "tail gunner" can take any shots you miss:
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Website is up:
http://www.cavalryarms.com/3gun/3gun.html
The site will be continually updated as the dates for the match grow closer.
This year's match is entirely under our control, we are leasing the range from TIGER Valley for the event. This should alleviate the logistics, command and control problems from the previous year.
We have revised the rules so they are clear and uniform, please read them as they are different from any other match.
HOT SIDEARMS AND TRANSITIONS will still be allowed at our match, we have changed some rules for the sake of safety and to clearly define methods of carry and when a shooter may transition.
We are using our own "Aggressor" targets we are having made for this match:
A Zones are the T in the head, and circle in the torso. I will hold off posting actual dimensions until we have the finalized targets in hand.
Trapezoid on the target represents an armored plate. Some targets may be considered "Armored" (this will be noted in course descriptions or by marking the targets some how) in which case hits to the plate area will not count for rifle or pistol. Rifle hits will count anywhere else on the target, Pistol hits only in the head.
We do need Range Staff and ROs for this event. We will have 9 or 10 stages and would like to have one Range officer and one assistant Range Officer for each stage. Contact us with if you are interested in helping out and let us know what competition experience you have.
We intend for this to be a fun match with a high round count. If you come looking to have a good time, you will find it.
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Darn, I really want to go to this match sometime, but it's the same weekend as our match in Waco this year.
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I shot 3 gun for a while with a 14" Short Barrelled Shotgun with 5+1 capacity. The only handicap I had was capacity.
The barrel length was a non-issue, it had no choke either, for farther targets I just used heavier loads.
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You were hitting the little circle part "relatively easily" at 635 yards??!?!?!?!
Or were you hitting the entire target at 635?
entire target...I think that's the most I can expect with a 1:9 chrome lined barrel, factory XM193 ammo, and shooting in a 15-20 MPH cross wind. The best accuracy I can get with Federal XM193 is 1.5 MOA.
Shooting the center circle at that distance would require a less than 1 MOA gun, and more skill than I have
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...Shooting .223 just starts getting interesting around 300 - 350 yards.
Having some fun shooting on the Anglin's property in Idaho last year:
It was relatively easy to make the shots with my TA31F
Wish we had someplace to do more of that locally...
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Well… I apologize. I have met Mike and he seems like a great guy. I will make sure to shoot the match next time before I criticize it.
I really just don’t have enough gear though… Any chance you could through the match with 40 rounds of shotgun on your limited shotgun and without a scoped rifle bolt gun?
The scoped sniper rifle is optional, bonus hits....i made one of the 670 yard bonus hits last year with my 20" AR with ACOG, the farthest standard rifle required is less than 500 yards.
I'm trying to remember what the highest round count was on any one stage last year for shotgun. I had 8 in my gun, 7 on the side saddle, 24 in carriers on my vest, and a dump pouch full that I had to go into several times. I know I emptied the gun, the side saddle, and all the carriers on my vest on several stages.
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You're probably right about the amount of shooting I do with it...it's also the gun I let anyone who wants to try an SST-870 on use when I am at the range.
I'm using a stainless steel follower I got from Brownells, it moves really smoothly in the tube.
In my other 870 I'm using one of Brownell's green anodized aluminum followers and it works great too.
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SR - do you keep the 870 loaded? I'm not sure if that makes a difference or not.
I've heard people say that only using a spring wears it out and keeping it under compression from being loaded has no effect. That sounds counter-intuitive to me though.
I don't keep it loaded often.
The diameter of the factory spring was narrower than my after market replacement springs. It was noticeably smaller than the tube diameter...I think this might have lead it to losing strength faster than some of the other springs I have used.
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How often do you replace the magazine tube springs on your shotguns?
I have an 870 police model that I've had for about a year and probably put 6,000 shells through in that time. I recently had some intermittent feeding problems with it, and dissassembled to inspect the magazine tube spring. The spring had lost a noticeable amount of length, and was barely the length of the tube versus the 33% longer it originally was.
I had previously ordered a large package of replacement springs from Brownells, so I just swapped it out and it is running fine again.
I am just curious what others experiences are with average magazine tube spring life in their guns.
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Sinistral, get a 10-22. The practice is all about putting rounds down range. Get the butler creek loader and 25 round hot lips mags. Put the same optic on the gun that you have on your AR. You can then put about 1K rounds down range per hour. Much more efficient practice. If the AR's had a mag loader for the .22 I would suggest it, but, I haven't seen one yet.
I was thinking one of the DPMS uppers would be good because I could slap it on one of my CAV-15 lowers and it would replicate the same cheek weld, length of pull and trigger pull, as my rifles do.
DPMS is supposed to have high caps available soon...I'll hold off and see how much they cost versus the high cap 10/22 mags.
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Okay, must be out of the loop - BUIS? Maybe it is morning and not awake yet, but, wtf is that?
Matt, Matt, Matt, you are SO untactical. You would never make it in the Trooper class. BUIS stands for back up iron sights.
I dunno...my trooper class rifle has a TA31F with an OKO mounted at 11 o'clock on the side of the free float tube, no back up iron sights.
is a secondary optic a BUDS, Back Up Dot Sight?
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FYI the best way I have found to test a short range scope is to mount it on a 10-22 and put a hell of a lot of rounds downrange between 5 and 90 yards on paper for the close stuff and MGM minipoppers for the far stuff. Don't burn out your barrel that way and it is cheap great practice!
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Good idea....I really need to get one of the DPMS .22 LR uppers
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I am just curious, are you saying you like your ACOG better over 300 but not under vs. the Leo?
I prefer the ACOG if most of the rifle shooting is going to be 100 yards +...the way my eyes work, I just can't be fast close in with an ACOG shooting with both eyes open.
I have found the CQT to be adaquate out to 300 yards, past that it becomes difficult for me to easily hit the average sized steel targets we shoot at. If most of the shooting is going to be CQB oriented with some being at 100-300 yards, the CQT works well.
The switching of power and not having the ret maintain (2nd optical plane vs 1st) similar size doesn't help for me. Having to know what = what at different powers is too much crap for my brain to handle under stress. So you really can't shoot at a 10" plate at 300 with a 27" circle on 1x but you can on 3x since it is only 9" and you need to hold over 8 if you have a 4.5 radius and 100 yard zero for most 223 ammo. A 50/200 yard zero (btw make sure you check your secondary pass through point on your zero) will still reflect 6-7.5 of drop at 300.(Will stick to my Trij ta11 which is tougher, brighter and works from 2 yards to 600.)
Darn do I hope some of that made sense.
I did have to read that a few times to understand your meaning...for shots at 300 I find that holding one dot width higher on the target is usually adaquate. I can see what you mean about the changing dot size potentially screwing someone up.
One thing I do like about the Leupold is it has adjustable focus so I can use it without my prescribtion lenses, should I damage or lose them. The ACOG is usuable for me without presrcibtion lenses, but the reticle is fuzzy.
Different tools for different applications...I think they both work well depending on your purpose.
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I also think the dot in the middle is too small to be useful at high speed.
What dot size do you find to be optimal?
On 1 X the dot is 9MOA, on 3X the dot is 3 MOA.
FYI - LAURE TACTICAL mounts rock!I definitely agree with that, the LaRue CQT mount is much nicer than the factory mount.
If you need to make longer shots that require holdover, the reticle is lacking that dimension.With a 50 yard zero the CQT can be used effectively to 300 yards without much trouble....beyond that I prefer my ACOG.
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At Ironman you truly feel like you got your money's worth for time and travel to get there...you don't mind the waiting to shoot because you're tired by the time you're done shooting and need to load ALL your mags back up.
I also like Ironman because it challenges shooters...it is often not just "who can do this the fastest?", but "who can do this at all".....lots of long range rifle shooting, which is something I really enjoy.
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W T F?!?!?
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I have one that I use when I shoot in Tactical Scope, it's a good versatile optic.
I usually place well at local matches using mine.
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Whether or not you guys shoot Trooper, I highly reccomend shooting the Ironman match....its not like any other match in the country.
This will be my 4th year shooting it, and it's always a great time.
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Time to switch over to the rat meat and rice diet now!
What are you talking about?...I switched over weeks ago.
Someone needs to film this, so we can watch them dropping like flies. Not sure how much of a gun skill test this will be.I'll be video taping.
Even in the other classes it is as much a test of endurance of both you and your equipment as it is shooting ability.
Too tough for some people I guess (or too intimidating)...people drop out every year at Ironman as it is shooting in Tactical Iron, Tactical Scope, and Open because they think they're hurting their guns shooting them that much, that fast.
If a bunch of fat boys like us can do it, unless you're in a wheel chair or handicapped some way, there's no excuse other than "it's not my idea of fun"
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BTT...I am recruiting sponsors specifically for this class, it will be worth your effort.
Ironman is only 9 weeks away now...
Texas State 3-Gun Championship
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Brad and I have decided to voluntarily do trooper class at this match, albeit with tactical scope guns.
w00t!