As a shooter new to USPSA and Limited Division, I found this thread extremely helpful. Mostly that the "high" grip feels uncomfortable and unnatural at first, but is necessary to control flip. I kept trying to get it to feel comfortable while keeping my arms bent and level. I can tell you that has been nearly impossible. I was glad to read the arms are not going to be mirrors of each other, and that it will feel unnatural at first. I feel much better about my grip and that I am moving in the right direction Thank you, Austin Rick