Wayne Dobbs

N320 is the replacement for TiteGroup and 231. If you get down SA way Bexar Community Range has a good selection of VV powders. Thanks for that tip. I have family in the SA area and am there several times a year. I will stop by and check that out.

Powder Valley only has one pound containers of N330, which I really want to try (but not when considering the add on charges) and Shooter's Source has no powder at all right now. I don't want to buy in quantity until I know I will be happy with a powder and nobody at the retail level stocks Viht powders that I can find in Dallas. Guess it's still Titegroup and 231 for me.

Can anybody advise who carries VV powders in the Dallas area?

And what is your Bianchi load, Doug?

reptoid, Not to start a massive drift, but what load(s) do you use with AA2 in .38 Special?

Thanks Doug and all the others who've replied. I am planning on attending Rogers in 2012 and they've revised their ammo requirements to either plated or frangible ammo (2500 rounds needed). I will give the Berry's a try first and see what I get...

Just as the topic line states, what is the highest quality 9mm 124 grain plated bullet out there? I prefer a flat nosed projectile if possible. Thanks for the help on this!

If you're up to the accuracy demands and it's legal in your state, that should be a great close range deer killing load. I've been shooting good sized SW Texas deer with a 625 Mountain Gun in .45 ACP with similar loads for several years with complete satisfaction. All shots have been within 30 yards and all deer were taken with one shot apiece and none went over 30 yards after the hits.

Get at least 10 primer pickup tubes. Otherwise, you'll be just getting ramped up on your loading when it's time to refill primer tubes.

Mike, Does the Melonite finish affect how you do the weld up on a stock barrel?

I've had similar frustrations with my M&P with regard to grouping. I've tried lots of different ammo and it's at best a 4-5" gun at 25 yards. I have Glocks that will stay inside 3" for 10 shot strings at 25 yards all day and my SA 10-8 Operator is a legit sub-two inch gun, so in this case, it's the gun and not the shooter (at least THIS time). Randy Lee of Apex Tactical has stated that he's working on new sear housing blocks and locking blocks that combined with the forthcoming Bar Sto barrels should turn the M&P into a sub-two inch gun (he thought they would shoot into an inch). I hope he's successful. I really like the M&P a lot and want to see it shoot lights out. Time will tell..

Who would be a good revolversmith to set up a Production Revolver for me? Base gun will be a 6" 586 (pre-lock). Within the constraints of the rules, what would you guys suggest be done?

Is there a commercial source for the suggested 135 grain wadcutters?

PD does sell this bullet as a component and I've fired about 5K of them so far. Give them a call, enjoy the down home speech and attitude of the gals taking the calls and order some. It's shaped similiar to a Hornady bullet, complete with nose skives, although I don't buy them for the expansion, just the accuracy.

Dude, I don't know how accurate that load will prove to be, but 15 fps ES is outstanding! Let us know how that one groups.

I've been shooting these for about a year and find them to shoot very well. I've been using 4.0 TG or 4.5 231/HP38 at 1.125 OAL. Pricing is pretty good at about $78 per thousand.

It's a standard M&P9.

I love the ergonomics of the gun and think it's truly a leap forward in the service pistol world. That's coming from a guy who spent 25 years carrying custom 1911s and basically stock Glocks of one sort or another as an LEO. I also spent two years in Iraq teaching the Glock and AK to the police over there (such as they are). I watched over a million rounds of 9mm go downrange during that time and also managed my PD's firearms training program for several years, so I have a well based frame of reference on this situation. I know that all of us here like to look for loads that really perform at an excellent level, accuracy wise, and we usually find those loads with a bit of effort and experimentation. At the same time, I doubt that many of us have to deal with main line service grade guns that shoot this poorly with typical training and practice ammo and that requires this kind of work to find something that stays under three inches. I've always told folks not to mess with a pistol too much in the way of barrel replacement or other accuracy work until they can outshoot the gun as issued. That standard is very difficult for most shooters, but it's sure as hell not for this gun and I don't appear to be alone with this issue. I'm going to contact Smith and Wesson and see what they say on this.

The loads were Federal 115 FMJ, WWB 115 FMJ and one of my go to reloads: 4.0 TG with a 124 Precision Delta FMJ at 1.125". I haven't put a 147 grain load down it yet, but will give that a try.

I have an M&P9 S/N MEP43** that is showing big time accuracy issues. I recently traded for the gun (and maybe I know now why it was available!) and have fired about 200 rounds through it in function testing. When I started shooting it off the bench at 25 yards the past few weeks, I've noticed that I have what is about a 7" - 8" gun for five shot groups! There seems to be very little breech end play and the barrel hood fits about like any other service grade pistol does. Rifling appears OK, although it does seem to copper foul pretty significantly. The trigger is great (3.5#) due to installation of the new Apex sear and firing pin block parts. I've tested three different loads in the gun, all of which shot horribly. All of these loads will shoot from 2" - 3" in my Glocks and just to make sure, I shot my Glock 19 with two of the loads at the same time yesterday and they grouped fine. I don't have unrealistic expectations from a service grade pistol, but I think that expecting the thing to shoot under 3" is not unreasonable. Anybody have a similar experience or have any input on this mess?

I've been shooting AR in my 625 Mountain Gun and it's a deer killing machine. My load is as follows: 255 Mount Baldy Keith SWC 6.5 grains Unique Starline AR case WW LP primer Runs about 875 and groups into 3" at 50 yards in my revolver.

Guys, Many thanks for your help on this request! I now have a couple of starting places, although since I have family in San Antonio, it looks like I'm going to be making more trips south to shoot with these guys! I appreciate you! Wayne

The cross in a circle means the ammo is loaded to NATO specifications. The cases marked "L7A1" are most likely Hirtenberger brand and that's some hot loaded 9 x 19 ammo.

I've looked at the NRA Shooting Sports magazine and don't see any AP matches in TX or OK. Does anybody know of any clubs that are running these matches in the North Texas or Oklahoma area?

Per the rules that I've read, an aftermarket barrel is not permitted. A barrel can only be replaced with another factory barrel. As for the PC 5906, I think it may be acceptable, but the gun must be a "production gun available to the general public". I know that some of the S&W PC 9mm are LE sales only items. I don't know which side that 5906 would fall on.