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Your budget should be fine for an entry rifle. I picked up an STI rifle and just added some parts to make it what I want. I have a total of about $1600 in mine now with the scope, mount, new stock, new grip, charging handle, and mags. I have shot about 2K rounds through it now and never had a malfunction and it is very pleasant to shoot and accurate. Is it a JP equivalent? No. Is it a good entry/mid-level rifle that will last? Absolutely. I plan on getting a JP upper years down the road but not now.
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The Kickeez are nice but you can do the same yourself with some foam, closed-cell padding, or a mouse pad a then putting an adhesive backed velcro on both sides to remove easily from your stock for changes and cleanings.
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The event at the Nationals highlighted the lack of precision as to when the COF was over. It was determined that the RO should be the one to determine when that occurred, rather than some indistinct moment which is not evident to all concerned.
So, if the shooter is having a bit of trouble with their gun and the RO calls RIC and the gun hits the dirt, then that's not a DQ?
I want to be very clear about this because I saw it happen last year and a debate ensued.
No, that should not be a DQ. Once RIC is called, the CoF is over and then it is considered a holstered, unloaded firearm, which then falls under 10.5.14 (must be retrieved by an RO and bagged/holstered by them, not the shooter).
Be clareful. The answer is not absolute. If the shooter is "having a bit of trouble", then RIC must not yet be declared by the RO.
If the gun drops after RIC is declared by the RO, it is not a DQ as long as the shooter does not touch the gun. If he does touch the gun, then a DQ would apply under 10.5.1.
This is why it is very important that the RO do his job correctly. Only call RIC when the handgun is properly hostered and the shooter has released his grip.
Hi George, can you clarify that? My understanding is that if the RO calls RIC, then that stops the CoF, correct? So what you are saying is there is a possibility that if the shooter was still fumbling with their firearm (during the re-holster/re-bagging process) and it drops after the RO calls RIC, then the shooter could be DQ'ed? How? That is more of a mistake of the RO, not the shooter. It is our responsibility as ROs to ensure the firearm is correctly and safely secured so the culpability lies back on the RO for not ensuring the pistol was secured.
I just can't see any way possible that the shooter could be a DQ if the RO calls RIC and the shooter follows 10.5.14. Please correct me or give me more info since I'm a little confused now...Thanks for the help!
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Here's one of my son shooting a PA63 with factory loaded Winchester white box. Watch the 3rd round. Squibs do happen.
His issue turned out to be that Winchester forgot to place lead in the jacketed bullet!
Interesting, even better that you got it on video and were able to stop before any real damage occurred. Thanks for the pics and vids!
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When I was there this year, the word was it was going to be held in Frostproof again but don't quote me on that. I do miss South River but the range in Frostproof is nice also.
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The event at the Nationals highlighted the lack of precision as to when the COF was over. It was determined that the RO should be the one to determine when that occurred, rather than some indistinct moment which is not evident to all concerned.
So, if the shooter is having a bit of trouble with their gun and the RO calls RIC and the gun hits the dirt, then that's not a DQ?
I want to be very clear about this because I saw it happen last year and a debate ensued.
No, that should not be a DQ. Once RIC is called, the CoF is over and then it is considered a holstered, unloaded firearm, which then falls under 10.5.14 (must be retrieved by an RO and bagged/holstered by them, not the shooter).
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Wow, now that's what I call really checking your reloading process - I think you have most people beat when it comes to that. With the way you have your pattern setup, seems highly unlikely that you did not do a powder drop but from the looks of the top photo - that's very indicative. How far in is that bullet? The only thing I can think of (and I've done this before) is when you pull the case out to check the powder, you empty the case and put it back in the press. You may have inadvertently rotated it before doing the next powder drop. We all can get distracted a little and it may have been one of those times. Not sure but seems the most logical.
As far as the heat, I truly doubt it. I was in the desert for many years with temperatures routinely higher than 116 (average 130-135 some parts of the year) and I have never seen a squib from that. The only thing close was a "cook-off" when the barrels get way too hot.
Glad you caught it and nothing major happened. Things like this happen, I've been reloading for 19 years and it's happened twice to me. They were in the early learning stages of reloading but it can happen to all of us at any time - always double check everything.
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People look at me like I am crazy when I do not give the "Range is clear" command when the competitor is still fumbling to get their gun in the holster...or they still have their hands on the gun that is secured in the holster. "Range is clear" should only be given once the competitor removes their hands from their holster and gun.
Amen to that!
I agree.
I make a point to say "Not yet clear!" if I'm still trying to lock in my gun into my holster and the RO has declared "Range is Clear" too quickly. I understand that the other part of the RO's job is to keep the stage flowing, but I would rather not open the can of worms of trying to parse 10.5.1 and whether I was still trying to comply with the "If clear, hammer down, holster" command.
The RO should make sure you have your pistol locked in or securely placed in your holster before giving the RIC command. However, I wonder why you would not give the command if someone is resting their hand on the grip as long as it is securely holstered? On the other hand, it's probably a good way to ensure you see their hand remove from the pistol providing a better level of comfort for the RO and bystanders that the pistol is secure. Nothing in the rules says you have to do this but if it makes our sport safer, then I'm all for it.
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Second on the HS6. One of the members here, Cocobolo, shoots a lot of 115s but he mostly uses Sil. That spreadsheet has a ton of loads, search for 9mm major. If I locate it, I'll post the link...
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thx! Sorry, one more ... is there some real difference between Steady Grip & the pistol grip stocks (besides coloration)? they both say 'non adjustable'
I think they all say that but there are adjustable stocks that are from after-market vendors, such as this:
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=167020
I don't think Benelli has an adjustable SG stock.
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I've seen that quite a bit too, never had any problems with it. I run a U-Die also and I see that sometimes. If it fits, you must convict
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Ok, one last 'dumb' question about M2 configurations ... after some searching on-line I see that Benelli has a Steady Grip stock (pistol grip) for the M2 field so ...
1. the configuration chart on BenelliUSA only shows this stock configuration on the 24" VR barrel Field gun; any reason it wouldn't go on a 21" VR barrel Field?
2. It also only shows the Steady Grip stock for the Field in their 'APG Real Tree' coloration which probably wouldn't look all that stylish on a black matte finish gun so does the black matte pistol stock for the M2 tactical fit on the M2 Field? Don't really need to pay for the Realtree finish as i won't be turkey hunting with it ...
... ok, that was 2 dumb questions ...
1. Good question - no answer
2. Yes, here's the link and I've got one at home also:
http://www.benelliusa.com/parts_and_accessories/stocks_and_forends.php
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I bet the 115 with N320 would be your best choice but I don't have any personal load data for it. I use the MG 95 JHP with 4.7 N320 out of my Open shorty and it is excellent. The VV manual list the 115 at 3.9 - 4.5 so I would try the lower end of 3.8/3.9 and see how you like that. Should be super soft and accurate.
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Here is something interesting I found while searching, should help:
Welcome to the forum!
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The vent rib is important for mounting sights also.
I would not go with an 18" barrel. I shot that on my m1 and its great for tight or close courses but the 21 and 24 barrels are the way to go. Get chokes!
Yes, there are pistol grip stocks, factory and after-market. I have the factory Suregrip pistol grip but you lose the Comfortech advantage.
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Yes, when I order grips, like from Jim Shannahan, I request that the bottom "screw" be removed and make it smooth/textured. I started seeing that on SV guns a lot and really like that look but yes Top, it's normal.
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My 2 cents but there has been a LOT of recent top end shooter transfer from the Benelli m2 to the FN SLP. The SLP is faster and has less felt recoil as well as the really fast shooters can out-run the Benelli trigger system at will. This is minor because it is rare that shotgun targets present themselves in a way the bill drill speeds are possible but... The SLP has it's own set a problems but they can be fixed. This said I still shoot an M2 and I really like it but I am not a top level shooter. If your getting started in the game just get the one you can find for the right price and practice loading that thing! That is what the top shooters really have that beats all us not toppers, a FAST load.
How is the SLP faster? What about the "less felt recoil", is it due to weight, design, or something else?
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I've only had my STI 9mm since Jan, and I've lost that damn screw twice!
First time wasn't lock tite, but the second one was, third one I had a Smith make sure it only comes out when I need it to come out.Really? I've owned STI pistols since 1994 and I've never had one even come loose. Which Locktite are you using? What did your gunsmith do?
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Benelli M1 and M2 are the top shotguns.
Lots of pretty good guns now but..... THE best is still the M2.
Yeah, +1 on that one followed by my trusty M1S90...
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Benelli M1 and M2 are the top shotguns.
Lots of pretty good guns now but..... THE best is still the M2.
Fascinating. I thought out of the Benelli corral it was the M4. Why are the M1 and M2's favored? Thanks for responding.
I am sure it's mostly due to the gas system vs the inertia driven system but there are other factors. There was an interesting discussion on the M4 a few weeks ago, check this out...
http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=107529&hl=m4&st=0
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How is the dot tracking on HS6? up down or figure 8?
Barely straight up and down. I'll try to video it when I go out again but not sure if it will show up. I only got to 164 PF so no telling what it will do around 171 but I'm suspecting it will be the same. I really could tell the difference between WAC @ 163 (violent) to HS6 @ 164 (sharp but steady and much softer).
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They have the sleeve for 5.99 and the screws for 2.00 at SC. They ship very fast! You should be close to SSI in CA so they might be able to get them to you faster...
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Are you talking about the tiny screw in the front of the trigger guard? If so, yes, that goes through a loop in the frame. It may feel solid but I wouldn't run it without it. I think Shooters Connection has some but it's part of a kit...Good luck
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I've used the Magpul CTR, UBR and PRS for three gun. I'm currently using the UBR and love it. I've got an ACS that's going on my next build to try out. How is the height of the LMT SOPMOD with your scope. If it's good I wouldn't worry about running the PRS unless you need the adjustable cheekpiece. As far as the weight of the stocks it's normally not too big of an issue since its at the rear of the gun. Just changes the balance point to closer to your strong hand. I like the way it balances with a heavy stock.
I just put an ACS on my STI rifle last night. Really sweet! I had replaced the standard stock with a PRS but that was just too heavy. I just put the ACS on and it still balances well feels just as good or maybe even a little better. You can really shorten up the stock also for shorter arms. I'm an average build (about 5'10") so it works great in the middle positions so far for me. It's nice to know I can shorten or lengthen as needed now.
First time wasn't lock tite, but the second one was, third one I had a Smith make sure it only comes out when I need it to come out.
Benelli M2 w/ lightened bolt vs stock bolt
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Good question, I would like to hear from Benny on this one too.
On the same note, a friend of mine had his bolt lightened and didn't like the recoil feel. He mostly uses the Federal Walmart stuff too but sometimes goes to #6, 00, and slug. He eventually took it out and put a stock bolt back in.