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I currently own both....
I bought the Limited first, then the TS.
The TS larger and weighs more, slightly longer sight radius.
The Limited has a cheaper initial price, comes with a factory aluminum magwell and adj. sights (which will eventually break)
The TS has a sturdy, unbreakable rear sight/slide racker
Limited accessories, grips, etc are more expense than CZ TS stuff.
The TS has an *amazing* trigger out of the box.
on pure aesthetics, the Limited is the nicer looking gun.
Better support from CZ.
Limited is closer to perfect out of the box, many people hack on their CZ TS to make it "fit" better.
I have my .40 Limited for sale in the classifieds...
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My TS, a gun produced in 2005, has an odd "pad" on the ejection side of the frame, in the area around the trigger where the slide impacts the frame on full recoil. Does every TS have this, or is it a casting error?
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Those rear sights are generally -VERY- securely installed. The amount of force required to move them could come as a shock...
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I make weight with my Sp-01 for SSP.....Marschal light-weight wood grips are the key.
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Be sure to check out the EAA/ Tanfoglio forum and the EAA/Tanfo shop (Henning's forum).
All 10mm Tanfos are large frame guns.
Welcome to the party!!!
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Might need to take out the big adjustment screw on top of the sight to get to the two set screws underneath. I would remove the screws, apply some Loc-tite and re-torque.
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The 40 is lighter than the 9mm, due to the thinner barrel wall. The railed frame appears to be longer than the non-railed version. If you want to keep the gun and use it for IDPA, I'd look into chopping the frame at the front, then milling (or hand filing) the rail off. I think there is more weight that could be removed from the rear of the frame under the grips. A set of wood grips add to the weight saving.
...but I would weigh it without the grips before I did any cutting!
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If your Match has a rail, it will be too heavy for IDPA. My older 9mm Match (no rail) barely makes weight and it doesn't help that the new Mec-Gar mags are heavier than the old style, but they work. The old style mags cost me dearly at the 2010 IDPA Championship.
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I'm thinking mainly of fitting in the IPSC box and the use of a "*thumb rest [generic]*". The only thing I have to change on my Tanfo are mag basepads to shoot IPSC. If it simplifies things I guess that is a good thing. Current rules prevent the use of a 6in barrel .40 Tanfo "Hunter" because it was only offered in 10mm and .45. This will give us non-2011 shooters a longer barreled option, at least.
I don't understand why Limited rules need to be changed, unless it is to make it more in line with IPSC rules. Creating another class of super expensive guns is not really a way to grow the sport.
The guns in Limited are already, "super expensive". Except when Vogel or Sevigny come in and beat everyone with a $500.00 gun. The problem I had with the Limited rules prior (And I was the one who asked for this rule change at the previous BOD meeting) is that the 500 unit rule was impossible to police and had seemingly broken down in it's application. It was originally intended to keep a manufacturer from making a gun on a limited level for it's Corporate USPSA/IPSC team. But also refusing to sell that fancy technology to the general shooting public, therefore giving that team an unfair advantage. Frankly there aren't any manufacturers dumb enough to invest that much money into tech, then not sell it to anyone. What we ended up with are rulings which allowed manufacturers/competitors to put 6" slides on guns that had never been made with them. Heck in calibers the company never even made the gun in. (Para, Springfield). But where you could only use certain calibers/lengths of barrels in other applications. (SightTracker). It got to the point where it was very difficult to figure out what was legal and what wasn't. There is no database, like the Production list, where shooters can go and see if their gun is legal. I know of at least a couple people who built 6" SightTrackers only to find out they weren't legal after the fact. Some major compononents, barrels, were subject to a requirement that 500 complete guns be made with them, while smaller parts were okay with just 500, or none of them made. I couldn't keep track of the rule and to expect any shooter to understand it was a bit much.
Open and Limited have been the race Divisions of USPSA for many years. This will allow some innovation in Limited. Right now the investment for a company to bring a new product to market is significant. Take the cheapest 2011 factory gun at $1600.00. Make 500 of those assuming your product isn't that expensive to begin with. You're at $800,000.00. Before the product was even legal for anyone to use.
As far as bringing this closer to IPSC, I'm not sure what you mean by that. IPSC allows most of the guns USPSA does, as long as they fit in a box. I doubt most of the "new" guns people will start making will fit into that box. I'm not sure if you mean you think USPSA should bring their rules more in line with IPSC, or if you inaccurately think this rule will.
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I don't understand why Limited rules need to be changed, unless it is to make it more in line with IPSC rules. Creating another class of super expensive guns is not really a way to grow the sport.
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Running Bayou Bullets through my Limited, I have no trouble. I cannot recommend Precision black bullets,though. They left the barrels in my.40 Match and Limited quite gunked up, and it was hell to clean.
This gets asked over and over, and the consensus is that lead bullets will shoot fine out of a Tanfo polygonal barrel. This is what I have come to glean from the folks who actually own Tanfos and shoot lead through them. As usual, some who have zero first hand experience will tell you you can't do it.
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After you shoot it a bit, the uncompressed length will be shorter.
Why is the 11lbs recoil spring from cz custom is longer than the factory spring? I put it on my cz 75 sa and it's bending too much that it's kinda hitting the frame. Does it have to be cut? Thanks!
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You can get some new rubber grips from EAA. Numrich may have some grips that fit it,also.
Any grips listed as EAA/Witness small frame should work. I think any grips for the CZ75 will also work. The earliest Tanfogio pistols were a very close knock off of the famous Chec gun.
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not titegroup, burns too hot. I love Solo 1000 with my green bullets.
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I think Henning has a fixed rear sight available now...
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CASA (casarange.com) in west Pulaski Co. hosts an IDPA, Steel Challenge, and USPSA match every month. The Benton Gun Club is pretty close,too.
Lubrication wise...I use heavy synthetic motor oil, slide glide or synthetic grease. My .40 Limited is usually oozing a bit...
Thank you Pivo...not to derail my own thread, but where do you shoot in LR?
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The frame is the same grip as the "limited" and "gold team" models , but without the magwell....hence the difference in grip panel length.
I don't mind DA/SA, and I own a 92FS, so the heavy pull (well, the D Spring mod helped some) I am used to. Honestly I rather enjoy the challenge of trying to shoot any gun, regardless of trigger, as well as I can. But, your point is valid--I prefer to shoot my SIG 1911, for instance, than the 92 in large part because of the trigger. I imagine with some buffing the Witness would be fine for my purposes. I am curious about the grip on the Limited Pro...without another model to compare, it appears the grip panels are longer than the Limited, but shorter than the Stock or Match?
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Here's what the top 10 shooters in Production used at the World Shoot....there's more of one pistol than any other.
1 Vogel, Robert USA Glock 17
2 Stoeger, Ben USA Beretta 92FS
3 Mink, Matthew USA CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
4 De Cobos, Eduardo ESP Sig Sauer P226 X-Five Allround
5 Lejano, Jeufro Emil PHI CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
6 Manni, Matti FIN Tanfoglio Stock II
7 VYSNY, MARIAN SVK CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
8 Momcilovic, Ljubisa SER CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
9 PICHUGIN, ALEXEY RUS CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
10 APLETAL, MIROSLAV CZE CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
11 Gyllenberg, Rasmus SWE Y CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
12 Vinduska, Vaclav CZE Grand Power K100
13 Moreira, Galo ECU CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
14 HRNCIARIK, ANDREJ J SVK CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
15 Brocanelli, Paolo ITA Tanfoglio Stock II
16 Drolet, Jean Philippe CAN Y CZ 75 SP-01 Shadow
17 Nagy, Ernest SVK Grand Power K100
18 Zuccolo, Giovanni ITA Tanfoglio Stock II
19 Franjo, Nadj CRO HS2000
20 Ibanez, Gorka Walther P99
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Actually, the gun you would make after swapping parts on the Match would be the same as a Tanfoglio P21L, which is on the production list...
Unfortunately, the Match isn't on the production approved list for USPSA. Additionally, such hybrid guns are considered "prototypes" and supposedly illegal for Production, but the actual wording banning prototype guns seems to have disappeared from the rulebook.
For me, I can swap the top ends between my Tanfoglio guns. (I found the reason why one pair only seemed to work on direction, but not the other: peening of the frame because I was using the stock guide rod, and so the lug below the barrel would slip in easily.)
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crap, oh well...
the small frame barrels have a smaller Outside diamiter than the large frame ones, I dont have the measurments on hand but I know my small frame barrels wont fit in my large frame guns and vice versa. otherwise my large frame 38 super would be a 9mm for practice.
Mike
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I'm pretty sure there are no "small frame" or "large frame" barrels, besides coned and straight, the differences between the guns involve the slide and frame.
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I've purchased a 6in. Briley 9mm barrel as I would eventually like to build a top end for my .40 Limited gun, just for a way to shoot open without having to purchase another pistol. I've got a 9mm and .40 Match, too. I thought I could just buy a regular non-cone slide and have it fit with a comp then bolt on a sight to my limited and be ready to run...
If I could snag a cone slide I might go that direction, and have an adapter made by Rich at Canyon Creek...
any thoughts?
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Those are good looking shoes, but for that kind of money, I want shoes with eyes for the laces, not just straps of fabric to tear and render the shoe useless. Really bad design and I won't buy shoes with that type of lacing system..just something to be aware of when shoe shopping.
I have wide feet and love my 333's as well (they were of considerable interest at the WS as well-- several foreign competitors stopped me to ask about them). But do note the sizing can be weird for the wide-of-foot, so I suggest 'bracketing' the sizes you want at a retailer with a good return policy, then sending back those that don't fit properly (you only have to try them on in the house--- no need to go run around to find out)
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I have no idea what some of the caveats might be except for thin dustcovers, having to get the mag catch modified to accept STI mags, and being a little porky compared to 2011 guns....any reason to just run away from one?
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....that is good news, I was planning on buying an MTAC when funds allow....