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ffgats   
On 2016-12-05 at 10:48 AM, SteveT-NV said:

I've been using it in practice sessions for the last couple months. Pull the trigger!  You will not be disappointed.  See the above post on my initial impressions. Nothing has changed since that post, other than I like it even more. 

Steve,

At what distance you zeroed your scope, just got the scope a day ago, was scanning all the papers/ info manuals from the manufacturer, and base on their BDC the scope zeroed at 100yrds/ meters.

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3 hours ago, ffgats said:

Steve,

At what distance you zeroed your scope, just got the scope a day ago, was scanning all the papers/ info manuals from the manufacturer, and base on their BDC the scope zeroed at 100yrds/ meters.

I'm one of those weirdos that Zero at the Maximum Point Blank Range (MPBR) for the load I use. This ends up being 265 yds for my preferred load. With this load I'm never greater than or less than 4 inches high or low for any target out to ~315 yds.

I like the lighter faster bullets for long range and use a 55 g VMax. This has served me well at RM3G and any other match that pushes the ranges out to 500-600 yds. 

I use the JBM Ballistics page to figure all of this out. 

While the manufacturers BDC data will get you close. It really only works well if you use the exact load with the same velocity that they use for their calculations. I wouldn't really consider the BRT reticle a BDC reticle since its markings are Mil based.

 

Steve

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IFlynn   

After more time with the Z8i, anyone have an opinions/reviews? Thinking I might switch from the Z6i to Z8i, but not sure if the extra magnification will make that big of a difference on long range stages of a 3 gun match. 

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18 hours ago, IFlynn said:

After more time with the Z8i, anyone have an opinions/reviews? Thinking I might switch from the Z6i to Z8i, but not sure if the extra magnification will make that big of a difference on long range stages of a 3 gun match. 

 

 

I did switch from a Z6i to the Z8i, and while I like the extra magnification and am very happy with the scope, I don't think the extra magnification makes that big of a difference.  Especially at the ranges that are shot at most 3-Gun Matches. That being said, I would buy it again. 

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IFlynn   
1 minute ago, SteveT-NV said:

 

 

I did switch from a Z6i to the Z8i, and while I like the extra magnification and am very happy with the scope, I don't think the extra magnification makes that big of a difference.  Especially at the ranges that are shot at most 3-Gun Matches. That being said, I would buy it again. 

Nice, I also heard clarity is even better, which is hard to imagine given how spectacular the clarity is on the Swarovski Z6i. Appreciate your input

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Tuukka   

My previous IPSC competition optic was the Kahles K16i with G 4B reticle.

I used it for several seasons in national and international level matches.

Absolutely nothing bad to say about it, only wish would have been a locking elevation turret.

I switched to the Swarovski Z8i with the BRT-I reticle during this winter.

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Having now used the Z8i 1-8x for some time, I can honestly say it has made a difference compared to a 1-6x scope.

Off hand shooting at 17 c, / 6.6" plates at 100 meters is very doable with the scope ( the new comp I am using and the aluminium bolt carrier of course being a part of this combo )

Best strings range c. 3.3 - 3.8 seconds from the beep for 3 shots/hits.

If I mess up, then the times are in the 5-8 second range with 4-7 shots usually.

So I would say the biggest diffence is the improved ability for off hand shooting at longer distances and not compromising anything in other shooting types ( low magnification, closer targets, shooting on the move etc )

The scope was really put to the test the first IPSC Rifle World Shoot in Russia earlier this month, placed 7th overall.

Excellent scope overall, as one should expect from Swarovski.

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adamge   

I am surprised to hear that you run high magnification when shooting offhand at distant challenging plates.  Especially offhand I try to keep the magnification down in the 2-3x range because I find the magnified wobble makes me doubt the shot.  I will give high magnification another try at my next training opportunity.

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Tuukka   

Yes, there is perhaps more visible wobble, but proper training makes it a non issue.

And arriving to a shooting position, if the dot takes a bit longer to settle ( some tenths of a second or even 1-2 seconds )  usually your hits from the string from that location will be better.

 

At 40-50 meters, I already use 4-5X, of course if the majority of targets are closer in it may be 1,5 - 3x and then taking the fewer longer shots with that.


Once I get the stage videos from the World Shoot, I may link some here that are relevant to this. Off hand mini and regular poppers at 60-90 meters and regular poppers at 110 meters.

 

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