fastarget Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I am interested in a custom and was told ten-ring builds good comp guns....would like a single stack for idpa. Anyone owns a gun built by these folks , and what is your impression. thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I am interested in a custom and was told ten-ring builds good comp guns....would like a single stack for idpa. Anyone owns a gun built by these folks , and what is your impression. thank you. Why don't you take this one for a test ride. The price is right. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?...t&p=1088492 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastarget Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 Interesting, thanks, before test driving, what do you know about the builder or the gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-ManBart Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I think he does more bullseye guns than anything else, but he seems to do a little bit of everything. For example, his S&W M41 barrel reline to ultra-match specs is considered to be as good as it gets by many. I've never heard anything but praise for his work, regardless of what type work. With that said there are a number of other smiths out there that do lots of IDPA/USPSA guns of the highest quality so you're not really limited to just one or two guys. R, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Check out his website. He was voted Pistolsmith of the Year in 1993 by the American Pistolsmiths Guild. http://tenring.com/alex.html They don't just give that away. Here is a list of the company he keeps. http://www.americanpistol.com/psoty/past.php There's an awful lot of great names on that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastarget Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 Thanks for the info, I have had a chance to look over his website and resume.....alot of impressive work, but there is no substitute to the input of an owner who has had the chance to shoot/take down a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 The work I've seen has been excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastarget Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 All great info.............let's look at the pics of the gun above and see if all is well...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastarget Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 Thank you all for your help, I will test drive this 10 ring creation. Deal pending on it. Any impressions from the pics? what do I inspect when it gets here? thank you again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I edited your topic title to include the "subject". In the future, please put the appropriate info in the title, per the forum guidelines: Thread TitlesWhen starting a new thread, please use descriptive words in the thread’s Title and Description. For example: Use – "Failure To Extract" (Title) "In .40 cal Single Stack" (Description) Instead of – "Has anyone seen this?" (Title) - Mod Squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastarget Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 oops, sorry flex........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Thank you all for your help, I will test drive this 10 ring creation. Deal pending on it.Any impressions from the pics? what do I inspect when it gets here? thank you again. It will be a great ESP gun, but you will have to put on a standard or tactical extended magazine release. The oversize button currently on it in the photo is not legal in IDPA. It's an easy fix. As far as inspection... put it through the safety checks found here >> http://www.cylinder-slide.com/1911safetyck.shtml and range test is for reliability with quality factory ammo. Remember 9mm 1911s can be finicky where ammo and magazine brands are concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastarget Posted November 12, 2009 Author Share Posted November 12, 2009 Steve, Thank you so very much from the very beginning, thanks for the lead at first, and now for the info......... I will do these checks as soon as I receive it..........I see the mag release, no problem, I will order one from brown or someone. As far as mags, I am planning on the new wilson etm. I am interested to see if the etm 10 rounders do in this gun like in my friends, he has a hard time dropping the slide from slide-lock when they are fully loaded, after that it is like silk, and they lock the slide every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Steve,Thank you so very much from the very beginning, thanks for the lead at first, and now for the info......... I will do these checks as soon as I receive it..........I see the mag release, no problem, I will order one from brown or someone. As far as mags, I am planning on the new wilson etm. I am interested to see if the etm 10 rounders do in this gun like in my friends, he has a hard time dropping the slide from slide-lock when they are fully loaded, after that it is like silk, and they lock the slide every time. Glad to help. A word of warning about magazine releases. None of them have milspec internals. They are all different and may not be interchangable. Regardless of who you order from, order the key and possibly spring too. Most don't come with the internals. The Ed Brown does not. If you go with the IDPA legal extended tactical, it may need some minor fitting. Basically, when fully depressed the curvature of the mag release should match the curvature of the inside of the mag well on the button side. A small round file will fix that right up. If too much extends into the mag well, you can lock the magazine in place and it won't drop free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 There is one more safety check. Lock the slide back with no magazine in the gun. While holding the trigger firmly to the rear, drop the slide hard. The hammer should not follow. If it does, it may be something as simple as not enough tension on the left leaf of the sear spring or too light a mainspring. Worse would be not enough, worn, or improperly cut hammer/sear contact surfaces. The latter is a serious problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satx40 Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 I had Alex work over a Springfield GI. He refit the barrel, put in a new barrel bushing, added adjustable sights and a long trigger. He set it up with a real smooth 4 lb trigger. It's a sweet shooting .45. He also worked over a Springer Micro Compact so that it actually works every time. He has worked on a couple of other guns for me as well. Personally I like his work. Art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastarget Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 great, will do...........I am curious about the light trigger, I have read that real light triggers dont stay consistent but lots of open and limited shooters have fantastic light triggers that last and last. It will be neat to see how this gun shoots and how accurate it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireant Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 There is one more safety check. Lock the slide back with no magazine in the gun. While holding the trigger firmly to the rear, drop the slide hard. The hammer should not follow. If it does, it may be something as simple as not enough tension on the left leaf of the sear spring or too light a mainspring. Worse would be not enough, worn, or improperly cut hammer/sear contact surfaces. The latter is a serious problem. I'm not so sure about this test either. I was told by a couple of local smiths that this is a bad thing to do and not a good test for a competition gun. I know my Fat Free would not pass this test, but ran like you would not believe. I think Benny knows how to do a trigger also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastarget Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 I was told that may ruin a good trigger job.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 There is one more safety check. Lock the slide back with no magazine in the gun. While holding the trigger firmly to the rear, drop the slide hard. The hammer should not follow. If it does, it may be something as simple as not enough tension on the left leaf of the sear spring or too light a mainspring. Worse would be not enough, worn, or improperly cut hammer/sear contact surfaces. The latter is a serious problem. I'm not so sure about this test either. I was told by a couple of local smiths that this is a bad thing to do and not a good test for a competition gun. I know my Fat Free would not pass this test, but ran like you would not believe. I think Benny knows how to do a trigger also. It is an absolute must do after any trigger job. It's the last step in the safety checks after loading just a few rounds at a time. It will not hurt the gun, as long as you control the trigger bounce. You do that by firmly holding the trigger to the rear when dropping the slide. It's the guys that routinely let the slide drop on an empty chamber when clearing the gun that ruin their trigger job. The trigger bounces up against the sear and puts wear on the hammer sear contact surface. No offense to you or the pistol which I'm sure is excellent. It's the advice I'd give anyone buying a second hand piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 Here's some local reading on the hammer drop test to check your trigger job for safety. > http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?...t&p=1010042 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastarget Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 for testing I see how this could be done with the finger in the way, and not allow the hammer to really follow, cushion it a bit,,,,,,,,,,I see where it may prevent the unsafe doubling or even the baby face machine gun effect....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted November 13, 2009 Share Posted November 13, 2009 (edited) for testing I see how this could be done with the finger in the way, and not allow the hammer to really follow, cushion it a bit,,,,,,,,,,I see where it may prevent the unsafe doubling or even the baby face machine gun effect....... Full auto would be exciting enough with a 9mm. I shoot 45s and I certainly wouldn't want to try to keep all the rounds within the range if one went full auto. By the way, in the thread I posted HSMITH is the authority. I also have printed instructions from Bill Laughridge of Cylinder & Slide for hammer follow safety checks. Edited November 13, 2009 by Steve J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastarget Posted November 13, 2009 Author Share Posted November 13, 2009 (edited) I have saved the C&S info in my favorites. Steep learing curve but getting there. looking forward to having fun with it, and I will look for the legal tactical mag release..........this is going to be great. Going to go read the thread... Edited November 13, 2009 by fastarget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
safarihunter Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Dang, Got way more out of this thread than I ever imagined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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