JasonK Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 Yes I have heard of this. So far it has all been anecdotal. I have a Beretta Elite I in 40 cal. that has about 10,000 rounds through it and have not had that problem. It couldn't hurt to have a spare locking block, although I don't. JK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted November 18, 2003 Share Posted November 18, 2003 Beretta is using a new 3rd gen. locking block that should make this issue go away. I broke one in 9mm after about 26,000 rds or so. How many cops will ever shoot much? I mean, besides Phil Strader? SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmshtr Posted November 19, 2003 Share Posted November 19, 2003 Hi Bucky, Glock currently claims b/t 70-80% of the LE contracts in the US. Sig would probably be 2nd, then Beretta. After that.........? If Springfield could come up with a way to keep dust, lent, lettuce, etc. out of that grip safety, I think the XD40 would be an ideal duty gun. I'd be happy with an STI Tactical, but somehow I think that would get noticed in my holster. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucky Posted November 19, 2003 Author Share Posted November 19, 2003 Phil, Doesn't seem that long ago that S&W were claiming 90% of the police market, between their autos and revolvers. After seeing what you did with that glock at the Winter Champs, I don't see it holding you back. Heck, if all you had was a cap and ball revolver, the bad guy'd still be out gunned! Besides keeping the dirt out of the grip safety, I think the XD needs something a little less than that 30 pound recoil spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted November 20, 2003 Share Posted November 20, 2003 Steve Anderson wrote: "Beretta is using a new 3rd gen. locking block that should make this issue go away. I broke one in 9mm after about 26,000 rds or so. How many cops will ever shoot much?" Yep - that sounds reasonable. Problems were, as I understand it, with locking blocks on .40 cal training guns & on those guns that were issued to tactical teams (who shoot more than average Troopers). In the Beretta's defense, these guns were 1st adopted by Maryland State Police in the early 90s at about the same time as: 1) the .40 was first developed and 2) Berreta set up shop in MD to produce the then-new .40s. As the locking block problems did occur in MD & Beretta's plant is in MD, it is quite plausible that different "generations" of locking blocks were quickly introduced based on police experience. As store rental guns, I have seen these guns break; its often the locking block that goes, but again, these were NOT brand new guns and had been fired more than the average gun. Lesson to me would be: buy a new .40, not a used one. Phil wrote: "If Springfield could come up with a way to keep dust, lent, lettuce, etc. out of that grip safety, I think the XD40 would be an ideal duty gun." You meant to say "lint" not "lent" & forgot to mention donut crumbs. Big C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriss Grube Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 Bucky, Yep the locking blocks were cracking on us so we got a new gun. The Brigadier is supposed to be beefed up but it looks the same to me. The slide is 1 oz. heavier. I wouldn't reccomend the Beretta. Too big and too heavy for CCW there are many better options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasonub Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 This is not in America, but here in the Philippines, its beretta 92's dao and Colt 1911's Civillians have lots and lots and lots of glocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Sweeney Posted November 21, 2003 Share Posted November 21, 2003 I just got a new locking block from Ernest Langdon, which he calls the 4th gen, and he tells me it is indestructible. I'm talking to the ammo makers about a long-term durability test, negotiating 100,000 rounds of 9mm. wish me luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasag93 Posted November 22, 2003 Share Posted November 22, 2003 College Station, TX PD, Glock 22. That is the only one I know other than the TDPS and the Sig but that was already mentioned. TXAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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