capdek Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 I've been shooting USPSA pistol matches for a number of years now, but I think I would like to try 3-gun IPSC. I have a POF P415 CQB .223 rifle and 5 30-round PMAGS that I think will work out quite well for a rifle. I also have a Benelli M2 with an 18.5" barrel and a Nordic Components +5 extension tube (so 8 in the tube + 1 in the chamber). No doubt about it - this is a nice shotgun! I've got $1200 or so invested in this gun, but I have not been able to find speed-loaders for it. Question: Does anyone know where I could find speed-loaders for the M2? I can now pick up a new Saiga 12 for $500, then spend $? to get it upgraded for 3-gun IPSC. R & R Racing in Salem, OR will do a top-end Saiga 12 limited upgrade for $1300. I'm pretty sure that's on the high-end as far as price goes, but assuming I did that, I'd have a finely-tuned Saiga 12 with a 10-round mag for $1850. In my opinion, my M2 is a much better shotgun than a stock Saiga 12, but without speed-loaders, I think I'll be seriously disadvantaged in 3-gun matches. I'm thinking an upgraded Saiga 12 would be a much better configuration for 3-gun IPSC, but I'd have to fork out up to $650 more to make the switch. Question: Would you keep the M2 in its current configuration, or sell it, get the Saiga 12 and spend the bucks to upgrade it for 3-gun? Thanks in advance for the advice! DEK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Tischauser Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 I've been shooting USPSA pistol matches for a number of years now, but I think I would like to try 3-gun IPSC.I have a POF P415 CQB .223 rifle and 5 30-round PMAGS that I think will work out quite well for a rifle. I also have a Benelli M2 with an 18.5" barrel and a Nordic Components +5 extension tube (so 8 in the tube + 1 in the chamber). No doubt about it - this is a nice shotgun! I've got $1200 or so invested in this gun, but I have not been able to find speed-loaders for it. Question: Does anyone know where I could find speed-loaders for the M2? I can now pick up a new Saiga 12 for $500, then spend $? to get it upgraded for 3-gun IPSC. R & R Racing in Salem, OR will do a top-end Saiga 12 limited upgrade for $1300. I'm pretty sure that's on the high-end as far as price goes, but assuming I did that, I'd have a finely-tuned Saiga 12 with a 10-round mag for $1850. In my opinion, my M2 is a much better shotgun than a stock Saiga 12, but without speed-loaders, I think I'll be seriously disadvantaged in 3-gun matches. I'm thinking an upgraded Saiga 12 would be a much better configuration for 3-gun IPSC, but I'd have to fork out up to $650 more to make the switch. Question: Would you keep the M2 in its current configuration, or sell it, get the Saiga 12 and spend the bucks to upgrade it for 3-gun? Thanks in advance for the advice! DEK I think you should go the Saiga route and sell me that old used M2 for $800. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capdek Posted August 7, 2009 Author Share Posted August 7, 2009 I've been shooting USPSA pistol matches for a number of years now, but I think I would like to try 3-gun IPSC.I have a POF P415 CQB .223 rifle and 5 30-round PMAGS that I think will work out quite well for a rifle. I also have a Benelli M2 with an 18.5" barrel and a Nordic Components +5 extension tube (so 8 in the tube + 1 in the chamber). No doubt about it - this is a nice shotgun! I've got $1200 or so invested in this gun, but I have not been able to find speed-loaders for it. Question: Does anyone know where I could find speed-loaders for the M2? I can now pick up a new Saiga 12 for $500, then spend $? to get it upgraded for 3-gun IPSC. R & R Racing in Salem, OR will do a top-end Saiga 12 limited upgrade for $1300. I'm pretty sure that's on the high-end as far as price goes, but assuming I did that, I'd have a finely-tuned Saiga 12 with a 10-round mag for $1850. In my opinion, my M2 is a much better shotgun than a stock Saiga 12, but without speed-loaders, I think I'll be seriously disadvantaged in 3-gun matches. I'm thinking an upgraded Saiga 12 would be a much better configuration for 3-gun IPSC, but I'd have to fork out up to $650 more to make the switch. Question: Would you keep the M2 in its current configuration, or sell it, get the Saiga 12 and spend the bucks to upgrade it for 3-gun? Thanks in advance for the advice! DEK I think you should go the Saiga route and sell me that old used M2 for $800. OK But seriously, I get your drift! Are there speed-loaders available for the M2? I've only seen ones listed for the M1/M3/M4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan 45 Posted August 7, 2009 Share Posted August 7, 2009 I'm assuming since you're considering the Saiga, you shoot open pistol? Search this forum and the 3 gun Accessory forum for Tech-Loaders. Now, if you don't shoot open pistol, ditch the idea of the Saiga and stick w/ your M2 and work on loading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRW Posted August 8, 2009 Share Posted August 8, 2009 8 snap caps and a couple shell caddies will set you back a little over $100. Made all the difference in my shotgun work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capdek Posted August 8, 2009 Author Share Posted August 8, 2009 I'm assuming since you're considering the Saiga, you shoot open pistol? Search this forum and the 3 gun Accessory forum for Tech-Loaders.Now, if you don't shoot open pistol, ditch the idea of the Saiga and stick w/ your M2 and work on loading. Thanks for the advice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinistralRifleman Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Open pistol is probably the least advantage in 3 gun of all the open guns. The functional difference between a tac scope rifle and open rifle is also minimal much of the time. I think you can be successful with an open shotgun, an open or tac-scope rifle, and a tactical pistol. In any case, using the Saiga-12 is a lot more fun to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xfactor Posted August 10, 2009 Share Posted August 10, 2009 Question: Would you keep the M2 in its current configuration, or sell it, get the Saiga 12 and spend the bucks to upgrade it for 3-gun? I'd stick with the M2... sounds like you've got it tweaked just right for 3-gun Tactical already. If you decide later that you want to try Open class, then you can always add a Saiga (and an open pistol, if you don't already have one) to your arsenal later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiggerJJ Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 Question: Does anyone know where I could find speed-loaders for the M2?DEK Any of the M1 Tec Loaders will fit the M2, have a bunch of them myself... jj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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