njl Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Do you carefully examine all projectiles before reloading? Would you load/shoot these? What if you'd loaded a few thousand from the same batch of bullets before you'd noticed a bunch like these? In the last picture, the brass was used as convenient holders for the bullets so I could get a shot of their bases (I'm not trying to make 9mm wadcutters Click the images to get higher resolution versions (and again to get full resolution). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I would shoot them at Minor/Production power factor & see what happens. The jacket might come apart in flight; that bullet will be spinning rather fast once it leaves the barrel. But I would not worry about sealing the gases in ; remember, black powder guns used cloth or paper as a patch (imaging how poorly THAT seals). I would not use them at the higher pressures of Major because I would be concerned about tearing the jacket off on the ports, damaging the compensator, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Lord Gomer Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Can I ask who made those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njl Posted May 13, 2009 Author Share Posted May 13, 2009 Can I ask who made those? I think I'm going to wait until after I've heard back from them with their response/opinion on them before throwing them under the bus. They are from a very popular FMJ producer. My concerns are: 1) What effect on accuracy could this have? 2) What's the odds of such a jacket separating in the barrel, leaving a partial obstruction that causes damage or horrible accuracy on the next shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JThompson Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I know who made them and have seen this a few times in the past. Do not shoot those bullets. If one of those jackets unwraps you could have a bad day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 If you have to ask can I because something doesn't look quite right, then the answer is usually no already. Make the manufacture replace them or inform them that you'll reveal who they are to a very public shooting oriented forum which I think they already know about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffWard Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I'd just hope they replaced the poor quality 3-4 you have with abut 50 good ones... That would make me happy! All manufacturing processes have flaws... Take children for instance... JW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 I'd just hope they replaced the poor quality 3-4 you have with abut 50 good ones... That would make me happy!All manufacturing processes have flaws... Take children for instance... JW Yeah, I guess, but the bullets from other manufactures I've used I've NEVER seen something like that in the thousands of rounds I've used much less several in a box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SA Friday Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Some of those jackets are severely cracked. I'm not sure I would even shoot them at minor pf. I doubt you would have a catastrophic issue out of a non-comp'ed gun, but I could see jacket/lead separation after leaving the barrel. It doesn't take much for this to happen. Seen this happen with chinese FMJ 7.62x39 through 1/8" window pane. The lead and jacket separated from hitting the glass. I could easily see these coming apart at minor. Your gun would be fine, but your hits would suck big time. I don't even what to think what could happen out of a comp'ed gun... If they are a major manufacturer like you say (they look like Precision Deltas), I would call them asap and get them replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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