Chris Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 (edited) I'm having some problems with the extractor on my GAP .308. Its making it hard to close the bolt and it gouging up the brass as well. Once the rim is over the extractor (after I close it the first time), the bolt closes again easily. I took it out and cleaned it and its a bit easier to close, but still really stiff. Any ideas? Edited February 18, 2009 by Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Have you called George Gardner yet? Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 Yea he said it caused by bad brass. I was shooting AE factory ammo and it was doing the same thing. I may give him another call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 What did he say was bad about the brass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted February 18, 2009 Author Share Posted February 18, 2009 from an email.. me: "I was shooting some factory American Eagle ammo the other day and it was very hard to close the bolt with this ammo. Is this just a case size problem or should I look at something else?" gap: "American Eagle is Fedral and the brass is bad. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Chris, Call and I'll get you some info on reloading components. Plus...you can have my once fired Federal if you like. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Interesting... I was shooting some Remington brass reloads a friend loaded for me and I experienced the same symptom. I thought it was his sizing die was incorrectly adjusted. It chambered easily but it was hard to close the bolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted February 18, 2009 Share Posted February 18, 2009 Bobby's busy with the PRTC this weekend, but I'd be curious to find out why Remington rifle brass is not good brass. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken hebert Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 softer and not as much capacity. but it is cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I split this out so it won't get lost in Rich's thread. What dim on the brass is incorrect to cause this symptom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgerat Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 shocking that george would blame it on something other than his rifles... Anywho, it is very possible they chambered it with a new reamer that has a very tight tolerance so factory loaded ammo doesn't want to chamber easily. Usually I would say you are using old brass that needs to be neck turned to chamber correctly but if it is new factory loaded ammo I would blame the rifle. isaac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 For tactical long range/sniper rifle, you'll want to full length resize. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singlestack Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 The rounds I was having trouble with were full length sized. I was not experiencing the chewed up rim like Chris. Could the expander ball be pulling the shoulder back out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted February 23, 2009 Author Share Posted February 23, 2009 OK, so I think I figured it out. Took the extractor out and polished the hook with a createx wheel on my dremel and rounded the sharp edge over just a bit. Popped it back in the bolt and now it works nice and smooth. Shot 40 rounds out of it today through the magazine with no hang ups and no gouging the brass either! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dt1 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 OK, so I think I figured it out.Took the extractor out and polished the hook with a createx wheel on my dremel and rounded the sharp edge over just a bit. Popped it back in the bolt and now it works nice and smooth. Shot 40 rounds out of it today through the magazine with no hang ups and no gouging the brass either! I don't mean to start throwing flames at George, but I had a similar experience with some work he did for me awhile back. Got a rifle back from GAP, rounds (my reloads) wouldn't chamber. Called him up and described the problem. He said it must be my reloads. I said they were the same rounds that chambered and worked before I sent the rifle it. He said to get factory ammo and there would be no problem. Factory ammo wouldn't chamber either (big suprise eh?). A local gunsmith cleaned out the chamber with a wire brush, removed debris that had accumulated in it while at the shop and everything chambered fine. There's a lot more to this story that I won't get into, but I've since found other gunsmiths that do great, reliable work with much quicker turn around for my needs. I don't really think there's any "bad" 308 brass, Remington, Federal, Winch, Laupa, Lake City etc. Some might be spec'd better than others, but none are bad. It's a low pressure cartridge and I've had brass from numerous different mfgs that has lasted through 8-12 loads before the necks split or something else happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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