Edmond Posted September 30, 2002 Share Posted September 30, 2002 Hello, I am very happy to announce that DCB case cleaner can be obtained in USA through http://securityarms.com/dcb/index.htm and that it is being tested by a few american reloaders , one of them being a famous champion. have a look at this new tumbling media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted September 30, 2002 Share Posted September 30, 2002 12 pounds for 50 bucks, I don't think so. Get 50 pounds of crushed walnut hulls for 12 bucks and 1 pound of Metall for 6 bucks and you are good for 2 years. (Edited by tightloop at 4:34 pm on Sep. 30, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmond Posted September 30, 2002 Author Share Posted September 30, 2002 interesting.. and how long does it take to clean up with your homemade formula, ever tried ti clean brass fired in HK or mil type brass with sealing, does it clean inside too? DVC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmond Posted September 30, 2002 Author Share Posted September 30, 2002 sorry , I am back because I remembered reading " wallnut hulls ", you really get it cheap , pal; thanks to give the adress and no messy working place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 to answer your questions, no I do not try to clean and reload hulls from HK91 or P7M8 or anything with a fluted chamber. Nothing you can put in a vibrator cleans the inside unless it is liquid. It helps to drop them into the vibrator asap when you get home, the longer you wait the harder it is to get them really clean. If you put them in asap and your media hasn't been used with 25 prior batches of 500 each, it gets them clean in about 1.5 hrs. I buy my walnut hulls at Clemtex here in Houston. They have various grits to choose from, I like the next to the smallest since it falls through the primer hole without lodging there. I called a buddy after I read your post since it had been several yrs since I bougfht any media and he tells me 50 lbs is now 17 bucks plus tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmond Posted October 1, 2002 Author Share Posted October 1, 2002 ""hasn't been used with 25 prior batches of 500 each, it gets them clean in about 1.5 hrs. "" for DCB , it's after 200 times you need so long, you're lucky in TX, because I did not see any price like that anywhere. thanks for the infos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 Did not find the same price but the meg-store Petsmart had walnut in a 25 lb bag for a little over $10 on sale. If youlook in the yellow pages for feed stores, farm stores, Southern States, etc, walnut and corncob can be bought cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmond Posted October 1, 2002 Author Share Posted October 1, 2002 Hi, all solutions can be used , Folks. but we are talking, practical here , like in practical shooting. we can go shooting open class with these pistols used in the 70's but in this case, let's not talk about practical and performance. a Ford T is a car , I would enjoy driving one , not using it everyday. gonna be surprised, maybe, when the one testing will talk. DVC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 Let's not slam something you don't know anything about. I was shooting in the '70's and using this same tumbling media then. While I am not adverse to change, like I tell my students; good, cheap, fast, pick two. It is also pretty shameless to come on the forum just to plug something you sell in your store, with the exception of be, 'cause it is his forum. There is usually more than one way to skin a cat. If your method works for you, great; just don't slam mine if you haven't tried it. (Edited by tightloop at 1:00 pm on Oct. 1, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmond Posted October 1, 2002 Author Share Posted October 1, 2002 not slamming anybody, just saying that there is something new, I'm not a marketing boy or one of these guys selling stuff to make money, I have develloped something that works fast , lasts long and makes my life easier , that's all. BE is one of the testers. Sayonara ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted October 1, 2002 Share Posted October 1, 2002 Can I tumble loaded rounds with it to take the lube off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5pins Posted October 2, 2002 Share Posted October 2, 2002 Look under abrasives in the yellow pages. I get 50lb bags of crushed walnut for $15 here. Add a cap full now and then of Turtle Wax professional liquid formula rubbing compound. Works better then any case cleaning media I have ever bought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmond Posted October 5, 2002 Author Share Posted October 5, 2002 Thank you all, your comments helped me to find a way to reduce cost one third in USA . DVC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philip Dedmon Posted October 5, 2002 Share Posted October 5, 2002 What about an answer on the loaded round question. I am interested in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usrmal Posted October 6, 2002 Share Posted October 6, 2002 I routinuely tumble my loaded .38 Supercomp cases to clean the case lube off the brass. I tumble them for about 10 minutes in a Dillon vibratory tumbler. I've been doing this for years and have never had a problem. An added benefit of doing this is that any cases with loose primers will generally either come out of the primer pocket or back out enough so you will see a high primer. Better to find these problems now than in a match when your gun fails to feed. I would NOT suggest tumbling loaded rounds for any extended period of time as it could break down the powder. Hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 Agree - I tumble loaded 45 ammo in course corncob for about 10 min. to remove the Hornady Oneshot lube; if you use the Oneshot like its suposed to be used (ie. lightly) then tubling is probably not needed. I think Brian just leaves it on. I sometimes get too much lube on the cases so a light tumble cleanes them right up. 3 years on, none of my tumblers has exploded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 sorry for the double tap (Edited by Flexmoney at 8:50 am on Oct. 7, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 I leave the Hornady Oneshot on...the Glock and the Para haven't had any problems yet (both stock barrels). I like the idea of tumbling them clean though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 Let me rephrase my question... Can we tumble loaded rounds in this new chemical media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmond Posted October 7, 2002 Author Share Posted October 7, 2002 Sure you can, the biggest problem with tumbling rounds is the time you vibrate them, too long and it fragments the powder modifying burn rate, in factory , they tumble rounds fast to make them clean adding chemicals to go faster, that's why the lead bullets are black color with many factory ammo. DCB works fast..... But I think it's better to clean before, anyway I prefer to clean before resizing to avoid scratching my dies and because my product lays a protective film making sizing easier and diminishing carbon coating after firing. Brian Enos received one kit to test and Scootsdale Gun Club will test one , too. you will get reports from people not linked to me and who have no interest to say BS about it to get something. here in France , major gunshops and many hi volume reloaders ( IPSC, CASS and others ) using it. Midway and Dillon importers selling it, 2 biggest wholesalers and Vectan Nobel Sport , too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 Edmund, Are you connected with Vectan in some way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmond Posted October 7, 2002 Author Share Posted October 7, 2002 like 98 % of french reloaders , I use their powders. I wish I am connected , my product would be on sale in USA for long time, they included it in their catalog this Spring after 3 years , DCB case cleaner was used and because their customers, around 800 gunsmiths , asked them about it. they finally tested it, found out my claims were true and bought it... that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 7, 2002 Share Posted October 7, 2002 just wondering...I have a pet peeve (small problem) with some of their posted load data and was hoping to have someone to listen that was connected to Vectan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmond Posted October 7, 2002 Author Share Posted October 7, 2002 May I help you? I can forward your infos, I have the boss direct line number, they really listen at their customers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmond Posted October 8, 2002 Author Share Posted October 8, 2002 I like this type of feed back , all testimonies from testers will be published on Security Arms site with name and adress. that's not a marketing game.. >Got package this morning in post. > >Just happened to be running a big bowl of 45ACP's for this upcoming weekend. >The brass is an add allotment of range pickup from this past summers >shooting, all dirty, recent fired and as usual for out here in Eastern OR, >fulla sand... > >Have several *weather checked* brass, those found on ground and tossed into >the mix after checking. > >15 mins in the bowl with the DCB1 has cleaned the cases. Running them now in >a fine grind corncob mix to clean. > >CANNOT tell the *old* cruddy brasses from the more recent not weather-messed >cases. > >The polish on these is as good or BETTER than OEM finish! > >Will be doing a mixed lot of my old really worn and so far *unfixable* (by >standard tumbling means) cases this afternoon. >Got a decent digi-cam incoming, will provide before and afters with >pleasure. > >Just the past hour worth of work has me damned IMPRESSED with the DCB >product. Is a keeper, when you make it avaible retail, I want it in >quantitiy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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